Many congrats to Nephew from me as well! If you play Civ on your Honeymoon, I will come to your hotel and smash your laptop myself!! I hate to say this, but I am actually hoping we cut our current crop of saves a bit. I fully agree with Hermit, if we toss Daves save, we end up with a GREAT set of reasonable saves, with a bunch of different ideas and plans, EXACTLY what we wanted from this series. But 12 . . . wow, very hard to give them all the attention they deserve when trying to pick a winner.