The Last Conformist
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I don't have anyone I consider as my hero or role model.
My hero is...
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nonconformist
Miserable
Apart from family, Mikhail Sergeyevitch Gorbachev 
aneeshm
Deity
The great and unmatched Isaac Newton . Then , as col said , Feynman . Then von Neumann . Then Tesla . Then de Broglie . Then Aristotle . Then da Vinci . Then Archimedes . Then . . . . . . . . . .
I define a hero as one whose great achievement you attempt to suprass . And the list of such people is very , velr long indeed . . . . . . . . . . . .
I define a hero as one whose great achievement you attempt to suprass . And the list of such people is very , velr long indeed . . . . . . . . . . . .
AceChilla
Goedheiligman
Hans Ulrich-Rudel
Luftwaffe pilot, probably the most awesome soldier of ww2.
Victories:
518+ Tanks
700 Trucks
150+ Flak and Artillery positions
9 Fighter/Ground Attack Aircraft
Hundreds of bridges, railway lines, bunkers, etc.
Battleship October Revolution, Cruiser Marat, and 70 landing craft
2,530 combat missions
http://members.aol.com/ab763/rudel.htm
Luftwaffe pilot, probably the most awesome soldier of ww2.
Victories:
518+ Tanks
700 Trucks
150+ Flak and Artillery positions
9 Fighter/Ground Attack Aircraft
Hundreds of bridges, railway lines, bunkers, etc.
Battleship October Revolution, Cruiser Marat, and 70 landing craft
2,530 combat missions
http://members.aol.com/ab763/rudel.htm
Interesting name in this list. Why is he your hero exactly ?col said:
Because of the Challenger investigation ? Feynman-diagrams ?
nonconformist
Miserable
Drunk Master said:Hans Ulrich-Rudel
Luftwaffe pilot, probably the most awesome soldier of ww2.
Victories:
518+ Tanks
700 Trucks
150+ Flak and Artillery positions
9 Fighter/Ground Attack Aircraft
Hundreds of bridges, railway lines, bunkers, etc.
Battleship October Revolution, Cruiser Marat, and 70 landing craft
2,530 combat missions
http://members.aol.com/ab763/rudel.htm
I really wouldn't mention Rudel-he was a lifelong Nazi, and after the war, he joined the extreme right wing movement.
E-Raser
hard, but unfair
My hero will be the one who developes and establishes a really working,
fair to everyone,
caring,
political system of government
where the oridnary ppl are not exploited.
In fact noone and there will be none!
fair to everyone,
caring,
political system of government
where the oridnary ppl are not exploited.
In fact noone and there will be none!
AceChilla
Goedheiligman
nonconformist said:
Those are unforgivable mistakes, but you can still admire him for his skills as a pilot and a soldier.
nonconformist
Miserable
Drunk Master said:
Yes, you can admire him, but to call him a hero after all that?
Tank_Guy#3
Lion of Lehistan
Check the avatar. Or maybe Dale Earnhardt Sr.
AceChilla
Goedheiligman
nonconformist said:
Well hero, hero.
Someone you can admire. Every man who ever lived made made mistakes, George Washington had slaves. Can you call him a hero? Rudel fought for the wrong regime, had wrong political convinctions. Yet he was a marvelous pilot, had skills courage and character.
I don't really have a hero, and I don't try to emulate Rudel or whatever. But I have been reading about him lately so I thought I'd drop the name
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nonconformist said:
Does this somehow diminish his achievements as a pilot?
Because he was on the enemy side?
Don't think so....
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nonconformist
Miserable
CurtSibling said:
No! Definitely not because he was on the enemy's side. In fact, many of the people I respect were Germans-Albert Speer, Gunther Prien, Erwin Rommel.
However, Rudel was a lielomnng, and unrepentant, Nazi. He was a candidate for the Deutsch Reichs Party, for crying out loud!
Narz
keeping it real
You mean idol worship?CurtSibling said:
I agree. I am my own hero. I admire others for various things they've done but no one compares to me. I don't mean that in an arrogant way but in the everyone must go their own way. I can't base my actions based on what Abe Lincon or Tommy Edision would've done, I must be honest about and true to my own character.
Rik Meleet said:
He understood Physics better than any other human being before or since. Computational genius at Los Alomos. His theory QED got Physics out of the hole that Quantum mechanics and Special Relativity put it into. Its estimated that he was responsible for at least 5 other Nobel prizes just by giving folk hints about what to do.
Every Physicist has their personal copies of the Feynman Lectures on Physics.
Add his drum playing and strip club exploits and you've got ... my hero.
www.feynman.com
Well, if the lawyers in Nuremberg had known what we know today about Speer's involvements in certain NS policies, he certainly would have been sentenced to death despite not being a typical Nazi.nonconformist said:
Idealizing someone as a hero leads to ignorance towards his or her mistakes or crimes. Speer actually is a typical example. He's long been idealized, even by important German historians like Joachim C. Fest (who was Speers ghost writer for his book "Erinnerungen"/"Inside the Third Reich" and published a Speer biography), but in fact, he was responsible for the death of many prisoners. Like the Wehrmacht myth Speer myth just doesn't seem to fade away...
ComradeDavo
Formerly God
If you take hero to mean someone that inspires me then.....
Maynard James Keenan (vocalist with Tool and A Perfect Circle)
Why? Because he refuses to become a 'rock star' in the media whore sense, and he (and Tool in general) are very pro-free thinking and encourages people to use their voice.
Maynard James Keenan (vocalist with Tool and A Perfect Circle)
Why? Because he refuses to become a 'rock star' in the media whore sense, and he (and Tool in general) are very pro-free thinking and encourages people to use their voice.
nonconformist
Miserable
kronic said:
I didn't say that I idolised or even saw Speers as a hero, I just hold him in rather high regard.
He was, afterall, the only Nazi at Nuremberg to admit to and denounce the crimes, and not going into denial, or pride, or converting and using it as an excuse.
He also provided unique insight into Nazi Germany post war.
greenman1234
Usless Information King
Mines Jesus Christ.
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