Napoleonic Sets

[GeneralMatt]

By the Napoleonic era grenades were rather ineffective in open, I am not sure they were even using grenades as during the American Revolutionary war era, though I may be incorrect. They were used during the Crimean and Civil wars for trench work, but otherwise they were not practical enough for widespread use.
There were still grenadiers, however, the biggest, tallest, bravest men of a regiment formed into companies, or more rarely, battalions, though they often companies from numerous regiments were brought together into ad hoc heavy battalions on the field. They had given up use of the grenade however.

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And the first of the light cavalry, a British Light Dragoon in the pre-1812 uniform.

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[Sword_Of_Geddon]

Sword, how's it going? Been a long time!

And for everyone else, previews of the Austrian and Prussian grenadiers, and the Russian Guards.
The Austrian Grenadier is one from the Hungarian regiments, with the blue trousers.
You may also notice that the Prussian grenadier looks much like the Prussian line infantry. This is so because the only really distinct difference was that they wore a larger plume on their shako, however it was only worn for parade and not on the campaign. They did have a slightly different shako plate, from what I could see, and I also coloured their facings differently.

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And the American unit. I will upload these in a bit.

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Going relatively well here. all things considered.

You did a great job with these units. I still remember you for the naval units you did, those were some great work.

 

[GeneralMatt]

I am glad to hear you are doing well enough, much can change in even a few months, and it has been a very long time since I have seen you around.

Thank you for the compliment, and I do intend to do a number of naval ships again, however at the moment I have been feeling like doing Napoleonic stuff, and since I need them anyways, I figure to make hay while the sun shines, so to speak.

 

[GeneralMatt]

Would someone be able to comment on this French hussar and tell me if it looks accurate enough? I don't actually like it myself (too busy) but that is hardly the point.

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A reference.

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[avain]

I like it.

 

[cool3a2]

Basically, it's okay, I'd say. There is no problem with the modell, but the texture might need a little work though. Try to give some details to texture parts that cover a larger part of the modell. That would be the dark colour of the uniform and espescially the red part which sticks out a bit too much at the moment. There's no need to really add something to the uniform considering the texture, just try to avoid to use the same colour for larger parts. Otherwise it looks kind of boring and thus odd. So give it some structure. Hope you understood what I mean, can't explain it any better.

Considering its accuracy, well, I'm not an expert for french hussars, but if your images are accurate, your unit is, too.

 

[GeneralMatt]

The one thing I could probably add to the dolmen itself would be some rank insignia on the arm, if I can find the style used.
I am actually rather happy with the way the pelisse sits on the shoulder, its not perfect by any means, but its turned out okay, and swings realistically in combat.

And the work, to date, on the Austrian Hungarian Hussar.

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[avain]

Very nice!

 

[The_J]

Can't say, how accurate they are, but i like them .

 

[cool3a2]

Looks pretty good to me. Maybe the green seems to be a little bit too dark to me, although I could be wrong on this. But you could keep the edges of the dolmen as it is now. See my post with pictures from the first page of this thread. Take a look at the page about cooking, there are multiple dolmens shown.

 

[GeneralMatt]

I worked largely off of this, though I know it is a more modern uniform, from what I can tell.

http://www.mfm.u-szeged.hu/images/idoszaki-kiallitas/honvedek-2b.jpg
http://napoleonistyka.atspace.com/Austrian_4th_Hussar_Regiment.jpg

There does seem to be some that have a lighter green, and some with a darker one.

http://napoleonistyka.atspace.com/Austrian_1st_4th_5th_Hussar_Regiment.gif

http://napoleonistyka.atspace.com/Austrian_1st_Hussar_Regiment.jpg

However, if the general consensus is to make it lighter, it can be done. The shako may need a black piece on the back however, from what I am seeing.

 

[cool3a2]

I get a domain name error if I try to check your http://napoleonistyka.atspace.com-links, so I can't say anything about them. Your first link seems to be pretty good, though, but I believe that the uniform looks darker there then it actually is due to the enlightment.

Regarding the edge of the dolmen, you could have it like it's on your picture or on those I mentioned last time - in other words grey or something darker. My point is simply to make the edge of the dolmen a bit more obvious. In terms of giving the dolmen a bit more contrast compared to the rest of the uniform, I mean.

 

[GeneralMatt]

That is rather curious about the images, let me upload them to photobucket.







Regarding the Dolmen, by edge, do you mean the bottom edge where it goes around his waist, around the wrists, under his arms?

 

[cool3a2]

I can see your reuploaded pictures. About the brightness of the green, I would suggest to orient on the version in the middle of picture 1. That one has a blue hat, but from my own experience I'd say that there is no problem to use that bright green together with the red hat and the rest you already have.

I don't know whether edge is actually the right word here, but I can't think of any better. I'm refering to the entire edge. The furry part. Maybe you have it already correctly, but it's hard to recognize as the green is so dark... Don't know. I would need to see the texture or the nif... If it's still unclear what I mean, I could edit your picture to mark the part I mean with red.

 

[GeneralMatt]

I think the dark green is suitable myself, however I can include one with a light green dolmen and pelisse, with a blue shako, when I go to upload it. As the shako is a different texture file, you can mix and match to your hearts content.

Do you mean the fur of the pelisse? I suppose it could be darker, yes.

 

[cool3a2]

Okay, maybe the word dolmen caused the chaos. I'm not a military historian, so maybe the dolmen is not what I believed it to be (maybe I meant the pelisse? I don't know. The pictures I've found are all showing men wearing these two things, but it's not clear to me which part of the clothing is what...). Well, I've marked the thing I mean with red colour, see attachment. What I said about the brightness of the green, was meant regarding all green parts of the uniform though... The shako (at least, here I know what I'm speaking about ) can remain red, although on the other side... if it doesn't mean too much work to you, then we could have it like you suggested: having different versions that can be mixed at will. I'm thinking about using both version, so that the red shako gets covered by two blue or something like that.

 

[GeneralMatt]

Okay yeah, that is the edge of the pelisse which was almost the same as the dolmen, save where it had fur edging and the latter did not (the pelisse being worn either over the dolmen or on the shoulder in the classic hussar pose which I was aiming for.)

All of it will have a lighter green yes, for the second texture, along with the blue shako, so I will just include both and you can use them as you wish.

 

[cool3a2]

You make me happy!

 

[The Capo]

I was just wondering if these are going to use guns as well, or only swords like the last round of mounted units?

And @ Cool; you'll have your crown soon, I'm just a little busy.

 

[GeneralMatt]

These will use swords only for a couple reasons. Firstly, because I haven't yet figured out how to get effects with custom animations, secondly because the sabre was used more commonly from horseback, and thirdly because there are already plenty of cavalry units with carbine animations, I figured I would do something differently.

In fact, I cannot think of any industrial era cavalry released that used sabre or sword animations, unless I missed them during my hiatus.