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Confirming Greece. ;)

As for the Hungarian diplo:
We agree to NAP and trade both. We would like to forge a stronger bond between our two countries.
 
OOC: Great :D now I just need a reply from the russians and I'm cozy.
 
Spoiler PP comparison :
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Economy  EC value  Total Economy

SUPER power 40+	

United Kingdom	-8	   48		40		
						
Great Powers 30-39
			
Russia		 3	   32		35			
Germany		 1	   33		34
USA		 7	   26		33
France		 1	   31		32
		
Powers 20-29			

Spain		 3	   26		29			
China		 0	   28		28
Japan		 3	   22		25
Mexico		 3	   19		22
UCC		 8	   14		22
			
Major Nations 10-19			
 
Ottoman Empire	 4	   15		19
Austria		10	    9		19	
Brazil		 5	   13		18
Texas		 9	    9		18
Argentina	 6	   11		17
Portugal	 2	   14		16
Hungary		 6	    8		14
Benelux		 4	    9		13
Colombia	 3	    9		12
Italy		-3	   15		12
Scandinavia 	 4	    8		12
Greece		 5	    7		12
			
Minor Nations			
				
Canada           1          7            8
Persia		 2	    5		 7
Ethiopia	 3	    4		 7
Denmark          1          2            3
Panama		 0	    1		 1
Mongolia	 0	    1		 1
Tibet		 0	    1		 1
Entente PP: 129
Soyuz/Vertrag PP: 128

OOC: Someone should kill america now before they rule the world economically like OTL ;)
 
i can see the UK will be eclipsed and not counted as a superpower in the future. Altough most nations will start spending more to maintain their growing armies.
 
Well, the world has to have an outlet for all those armies. There will be a world war hopefully and hopefully soon. That would be fun because I can truly unite all Italians.
 
To Hungary
From: Russia

Of course we accept your NAP and we sincerely hope trade flourishes, and would like to formalize that in a Pact of Friendship and Trade. We are always glad to help Soyuz Members
 
OOC: actually that reminds me what exactly is that agreement regarding? I see Germany and Austria are listed as having a defensive alliance.. however I didnt see info on the others.
 
Germany, Austria, Hungary, ottomans, Persia & Russia are linked to a full defensive allience. (NATO-ish).

They are a counter balance of the Entete formed by UK, France, Spain, Italy & Portugal
 
its kinda funny if you look at it, Ententre is 129, for 5 nations and then theres the Soyuz/Vertrag with 128 with 6 nations,

is it me or would a war between the alliances be a toss up?
 
Captain2 said:
To: UCC
From: Spain

we find it to be insulting that you assume spain is planning on deporting people based upon their vote in a referendum, we were refering to allowing the country to leave
Perhaps, it is a thin skin and a belligerent attitude towards those who have different opinions that makes you assume insult where none is intended. Clearly what you wrote and we read were not the same text. Let us blame it on the translators. If by leave you mean that Spain would leave Java if those in favor of independence were in the majority, I would applaud you. If you mean something different you should rephrase it so it is easier for the ignorant to grasp.

We are a small nation without ambition, large armies or overseas dominions. We value trade among independent equals rather than the exploitive colonial model you favor. It is in our interest to let those people who attempt to win their freedom that we think their effort is a worthwhile one. We did so with Java as soon as it was clear that it was the will of the people at work. Is it not better that we speak openly of our position and discuss it on the world stage? Or would you have us work in secret like those who attack the pacific shipping?
 
OOC: Someone should kill america now before they rule the world economically like OTL

There's your solution. Instead of predictably having the Vertrag and the Entente clash leaving America in position to inherit the world, lets have the Entente sign a NAP with the Vertrag and fight America. Whoever wins will be so weak that Vertrag will inherit the world, but that's much more fun, isn't it? ;)
 
To: UCC
From: Spain

yes, if Java decides in the majority that it doesnt want to become spanish, we will leave it, if they decide to become spanish, thats the end of it, Spain will occupy java

however since Germany doesnt seem to be replying would the UCC be interested in sending a division of regulars, whose duty would be guarding the vote so there is no illegal interferience

also, spain is not exploitive to our people, you shall see great changes in spains standard of living in the months to come

however we do applaud you for being open about your concerns, and not being underhanded, because this way we can at least work out strained relations, if theres blood on either of our hands, its very much harder
 
I must have missed something. What the?
 
Eh. Been reading the thread and decided that I'm interested in it. I'll join as Brazil, through NPC me this turn as I seriously doubt I'd be ready by the end of tonight.
 
update is friday, so you could send orders any time tommorow. Ill npc you if i dont get them tough.

yeah, u guys have around 36 hours to get orders in.
 
das, you refering to the whole java thing or something else?
 
Captain2 said:
To: UCC
From: Spain

yes, if Java decides in the majority that it doesnt want to become spanish, we will leave it, if they decide to become spanish, thats the end of it, Spain will occupy java

however since Germany doesnt seem to be replying would the UCC be interested in sending a division of regulars, whose duty would be guarding the vote so there is no illegal interferience

also, spain is not exploitive to our people, you shall see great changes in spains standard of living in the months to come

however we do applaud you for being open about your concerns, and not being underhanded, because this way we can at least work out strained relations, if theres blood on either of our hands, its very much harder
To Spain
From UCC

We will wait to see how you are recieved by the Javanese, but if they show signs of welcoming you and not resisting Spanish rule, we would send a division of regulars to monitor a vote.
 
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