Never-Before-Seen Civs Poll

[Patine]

Thing is, many of those Bight of Benin civs would ask for a similar ability to Kongo's N'kisi. I'd love to see a Yoruba / Oyo civ, but only in Civ 7, with an N'kisi-like ability, some cavalry for UU and other elements...

Oyo, Igibo, Hausa, or Ashanti would be cool. Maybe even Dahomey (the birthplace of the Voudun religion)
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Depends on what the developers want to develop.

I would point out, however, that if the third expack features a lot of economic mechanics, Swahili stand a better shot given the whole luxury trade angle. So far both expacks have featured six-ish civs that fit the expack's theme. Politics/Golden Ages (Mapuche, Scotland, Georgia, Cree, Zulu, Korea/Mongolia); terrain (Hungary, Maori, Canada, Inca, Mali, Sweden, kind of Phoenicia). I think any civ with a strong economic bent stands a good chance in the third expack, so Portugal, Maya, Morocco are all solidly in contention.

Morocco is not REALLY it's own separate, distinct, unique civilization in-and-of-itself. It's the Westernmost part of the Arab and Berber civilization continuity, really.

 

[PhoenicianGold]

Morocco is not REALLY it's own separate, distinct, unique civilization in-and-of-itself. It's the Westernmost part of the Arab and Berber civilization continuity, really.

After the breakup of the Umayyad Caliphate it was pretty much its own thing distinct from Arabia. The Almoravid and Almohad Caliphates were large regional influencers. And honestly neither Arabia nor the Ottomans represent the Maghreb/Berbers very well.

 

[Patine]

After the breakup of the Umayyad Caliphate it was pretty much its own thing distinct from Arabia. The Almoravid and Almohad Caliphates were large regional influencers. And honestly neither Arabia nor the Ottomans represent the Maghreb/Berbers very well.

Nor do the Moroccan Monarchies, who mostly enslaved them, made them do serf labour, relegated them to second-class citizens, sparked revolts through their mistreatment, and only acknowledged them legally or culturally in the early '90's, when nations acknowledging minority and indigenous cultures in their borders had started becoming very common globally.

 

[PhoenicianGold]

Nor do the Moroccan Monarchies, who mostly enslaved them, made them do serf labour, relegated them to second-class citizens, sparked revolts through their mistreatment, and only acknowledged them legally or culturally in the early '90's, when nations acknowledging minority and indigenous cultures in their borders had started becoming very common globally.

So give Morocco an Almohad leader. Cultural reclamation, problem solved.

Or give Morocco Sayyida Al Hurra who was a rebel who don't need no king. Again, problem solved.

 

[Krajzen]

Morocco is not REALLY it's own separate, distinct, unique civilization in-and-of-itself. It's the Westernmost part of the Arab and Berber civilization continuity, really.

I think if the game can simultaneously have
Portugal and Brazil
Sweden and Denmark/Norway
Byzantium and Rome
Greece and Macedon
Germany and Austria (civ5)
Germany and Holy Roman Empire (civ4)
England, America, Australia and Canada (!!!)

Then Morocco is fine

 

[Patine]

I think if the game can simultaneously have
Portugal and Brazil
Sweden and Denmark/Norway
Byzantium and Rome
Greece and Macedon
Germany and Austria (civ5)
Germany and Holy Roman Empire (civ4)
England, America, Australia and Canada (!!!)

Then Morocco is fine

Ultimately, I would like to see a mechanic (probably for a later iteration of Civ, but harkening, thematically, to Colonization), that if a civ gets too far in cities across too many continent for long enough, the "extremities" will start developing independence movements and begin (or at least attempt) revolutions, rebellions, appeals to other extant civs (and a World Congress, if one exists), or even peaceful negotiations, to break away from the Mother Country and become a sovereign nation and civ in-and-of itself.