Never before seen wonders - Elimination Thread

[Roman Citizen]

Al-Qarawiyyin Mosque and University 17
Burj Al Arab 8
Cairo Citadel 17+1=18 Saladin is leader so this makes sense to include this place with him.
Caral Pyramids 6
Chrysler Building 23
Cliff Palace 23
Coney Island 13
Cothon of Carthage 21
Gyeongbokgung Palace 24
Karnak Temples 21
Palais des Papes 19
Qorikancha 14
Santa Maria del Fiore 26
(Set Maat) 9-3=6 This place doesn't seem like a world wonder.
Smithsonian Institution 18
St. Mark's Basilica 21
Teatro Amazonas 15
Tomb of Antiochus I 24

 

[luigilime]

Al-Qarawiyyin Mosque and University 17
Burj Al Arab 8
Cairo Citadel 18
Caral Pyramids 6
Chrysler Building 23
Cliff Palace 23
Coney Island 13
Cothon of Carthage 21
Gyeongbokgung Palace 24
Karnak Temples 21
Palais des Papes 19
Qorikancha 14
Santa Maria del Fiore 26+1=27 still don't understand why this isn't in the game yet
(Set Maat) 6
Smithsonian Institution 18
St. Mark's Basilica 21
Teatro Amazonas 15-3=12 there are more iconic theatres than this one such as the Garnier opera in Paris or la scala in Milan that could be a more viable option
Tomb of Antiochus I 24

 

[Zaarin]

Al-Qarawiyyin Mosque and University 17
Burj Al Arab 8
Cairo Citadel 18
Caral Pyramids 6
Chrysler Building 24 (23 + 1) -- It would look gorgeous on the map, and it would help make up for the dearth of modern wonders.
Cliff Palace 23
Coney Island 13
Cothon of Carthage 18 (21 - 3) -- Nonsense: this is just begging to be a unique district.
Gyeongbokgung Palace 24
Karnak Temples 21
Palais des Papes 19
Qorikancha 14
Santa Maria del Fiore 27
(Set Maat) 6
Smithsonian Institution 18
St. Mark's Basilica 21
Teatro Amazonas 12
Tomb of Antiochus I 24

 

[Kimiimaro]

Al-Qarawiyyin Mosque and University 17
Burj Al Arab 8
Cairo Citadel 18
Caral Pyramids 6
Chrysler Building 24
Cliff Palace 23
Coney Island 13
Cothon of Carthage 18
Gyeongbokgung Palace 24
Karnak Temples 21
Palais des Papes 19
Qorikancha 14
Santa Maria del Fiore 27
(Set Maat) 6
Smithsonian Institution 18
St. Mark's Basilica 21+1=22 - As I said, I'm obsessed with Venice
Teatro Amazonas 12-3=9 - I'm sorry, @Xandinho, but I really find it the most redundant choice, when we have Bolshoi Theatre as an Industrial Era theatre wonder... Also, there are more fascinating and visually more distinct theatres, like the National Theatre in Prague.
Tomb of Antiochus I 24

 

[UkrNixon]

Al-Qarawiyyin Mosque and University 17
Burj Al Arab 8
Cairo Citadel 18
Caral Pyramids 6
Chrysler Building 24
Cliff Palace 23+1=24 (One of the greatest pre-Columbian wonders of North America)
Coney Island 13-3=10 (Generic amusement park isn't really wonder material)
Cothon of Carthage 18
Gyeongbokgung Palace 24
Karnak Temples 21
Palais des Papes 19
Qorikancha 14
Santa Maria del Fiore 27
(Set Maat) 6
Smithsonian Institution 18
St. Mark's Basilica 22
Teatro Amazonas 9
Tomb of Antiochus I 24

 

[Xandinho]

Al-Qarawiyyin Mosque and University 17
Burj Al Arab 8
Cairo Citadel 18
Caral Pyramids 6
Chrysler Building 24
Cliff Palace 24
Coney Island 10
Cothon of Carthage 18
Gyeongbokgung Palace 24
Karnak Temples 21
Palais des Papes 19
Qorikancha 14
Santa Maria del Fiore 27
(Set Maat) 6 - 3 = 3 This is just an old village, far from being a wonder.
Smithsonian Institution 18
St. Mark's Basilica 22
Teatro Amazonas 9 + 1 =10 I want more theaters, while this is the only one on the list, I will vote for it. Maybe we should include Opera Garnier and Teatro Cólon in the next round?
Tomb of Antiochus I 24

 

[Guandao]

Al-Qarawiyyin Mosque and University 17
Burj Al Arab 8
Cairo Citadel 18
Caral Pyramids (6+1)=7 Earliest Andean wonder, built by a non-agricultural society (they did grew cotton though, but not food plants). Any supposed similarity to Egyptian pyramids is non-existent.
Chrysler Building 24
Cliff Palace 24
Coney Island 10
Cothon of Carthage 18
Gyeongbokgung Palace 24
Karnak Temples 21
Palais des Papes 19
Qorikancha 14
Santa Maria del Fiore 27
(Set Maat) 3-3=0 This is a workers/artisans village, not a wonder. Set Maat should be a city name on the Egyptian list, but we all know they messed that one up.
Smithsonian Institution 18
St. Mark's Basilica 22
Teatro Amazonas 10
Tomb of Antiochus I 24

Could a Cothon be found in multiple Carthaginian cities? If so, I would support it being a district.

 

[Kimiimaro]

Could a Cothon be found in multiple Carthaginian cities? If so, I would support it being a district.

According to Wikipedia, Cothons were generally found in Phoenician world.

 

[Roman Citizen]

Al-Qarawiyyin Mosque and University 17
Burj Al Arab 8-3=5 Like I said before the Burj Khalifa is a better building for a wonder.
Cairo Citadel 18
Caral Pyramids 7
Chrysler Building 24
Cliff Palace 24
Coney Island 10
Cothon of Carthage 18
Gyeongbokgung Palace 24
Karnak Temples 21
Palais des Papes 19
Qorikancha 14
Santa Maria del Fiore 27+1=28 Why hasn't this been in a civ game before?
Smithsonian Institution 18
St. Mark's Basilica 22
Teatro Amazonas 10
Tomb of Antiochus I 24

 

[luigilime]

Al-Qarawiyyin Mosque and University 17
Burj Al Arab 5
Cairo Citadel 18
Caral Pyramids 7
Chrysler Building 24
Cliff Palace 24
Coney Island 10-3=7 I'm sorry but I don't see some random amusement park at the same level as the wonders already in the game. It would be weird to me seeing the hagia Sophia or the great pyramids compared to a fun fair
Cothon of Carthage 18
Gyeongbokgung Palace 24
Karnak Temples 21
Palais des Papes 19
Qorikancha 14
Santa Maria del Fiore 28+1=29 same reason I stated before
Smithsonian Institution 18
St. Mark's Basilica 22
Teatro Amazonas 10
Tomb of Antiochus I 24

 

[Zaarin]

Al-Qarawiyyin Mosque and University 17
Burj Al Arab 5
Cairo Citadel 18
Caral Pyramids 7
Chrysler Building 24
Cliff Palace 24
Coney Island 4 (7 - 3) -- Could make a nice UI or UB, but not a wonder.
Cothon of Carthage 18
Gyeongbokgung Palace 25 (24 + 1) -- It would be nice to have a Korean wonder in game.
Karnak Temples 21
Palais des Papes 19
Qorikancha 14
Santa Maria del Fiore 29
Smithsonian Institution 18
St. Mark's Basilica 22
Teatro Amazonas 10
Tomb of Antiochus I 24

 

[Phrozen]

Al-Qarawiyyin Mosque and University 17
Burj Al Arab 5
Cairo Citadel 18
Caral Pyramids 7
Chrysler Building 24
Cliff Palace 24
Coney Island 4 +1. There were actually three amusement parks operating at the same time plus other attractions.It would be stupendously colorful on the map.
Cothon of Carthage 18
Gyeongbokgung Palace 25
Karnak Temples 21
Palais des Papes 19
Qorikancha 14
Santa Maria del Fiore 29
Smithsonian Institution 18 -3 =15. The castle is really the only 'unique' looking building.
St. Mark's Basilica 22
Teatro Amazonas 10
Tomb of Antiochus I 24

Coney Island early 1900s:

 

[Kimiimaro]

Al-Qarawiyyin Mosque and University 17
Burj Al Arab 5
Cairo Citadel 18
Caral Pyramids 7
Chrysler Building 24
Cliff Palace 24
Coney Island 5+1=6 - I'm afraid that I have to protect it. We need an Industrial Era entertainment wonder, and Coney Island was one of the first amusement parks in the world. And it looks gorgeous on those pictures.
Cothon of Carthage 18
Gyeongbokgung Palace 25
Karnak Temples 21
Palais des Papes 19
Qorikancha 14
Santa Maria del Fiore 29
Smithsonian Institution 15
St. Mark's Basilica 22
Teatro Amazonas 10-3=7 - Not a priority to me. Interresting, yes, but there are more interresting Industrial Era theaters. Also, I don't think it's needed right now.
Tomb of Antiochus I 24

 

[Siptah]

Al-Qarawiyyin Mosque and University 17
Burj Al Arab 5
Cairo Citadel 18
Caral Pyramids 7
Chrysler Building 24
Cliff Palace 24
Coney Island 6
Cothon of Carthage 15 (18-3) Would indeed be nice unique district for Carthage. A kind of encampment/harbor combo maybe?
Gyeongbokgung Palace 25
Karnak Temples 21
Palais des Papes 19
Qorikancha 14
Santa Maria del Fiore 29
Smithsonian Institution 15
St. Mark's Basilica 22
Teatro Amazonas 7
Tomb of Antiochus I 25 (24+1) Wondrous place on the top of a mountain that would look gorgeous in civ VI art style. And for history fanatics, it tells us very interesting thins about mixing up the Persian and Hellenic world and religion.

 

[Xandinho]

Al-Qarawiyyin Mosque and University 17
Burj Al Arab 5
Cairo Citadel 18
Caral Pyramids 7 - 3 = 4 I came back to you, I gave my reasons before. And you're too long here, I just do not see them as viable as wonder.
Chrysler Building 24
Cliff Palace 24
Coney Island 6
Cothon of Carthage 15
Gyeongbokgung Palace 25
Karnak Temples 21
Palais des Papes 19
Qorikancha 14
Santa Maria del Fiore 29
Smithsonian Institution 15
St. Mark's Basilica 22
Teatro Amazonas 7 + 1 = 8 Yes @Kimiimaro. But...Finding impressive European theaters is easy. But there are not many impressive theaters like this one in the heart of the Amazon. This is what makes it unique, this is not more one European theater. And this theater is very important, did I mention that here happens annually the biggest lyrical festival in Latin America and one of the 10 largest in the world? The Amazon opera festival. And an event of this level it's not in Europe, as you would expect it to be. Yes, it is in the heart of the Amazon, a highly improbable place. And this is a great name for more wonders of South America, and it makes more sense as a wonder than Estádio do Maracanã, in my opinion. I just think this should not be falling now, but...
Tomb of Antiochus I 25

 

[Guandao]

Caral Pyramids 7 - 3 = 4 I came back to you, I gave my reasons before. And you're too long here, I just do not see them as viable as wonder.

Not viable because of supposed similarity to Mesoamerican and Egyptian wonders? All pyramid-like structures function and look the same? No recognition for the earliest civilization in the Andes? And somehow Qorikancha is more of a wonder than the Caral Pyramids?

 

[Xandinho]

Not viable because of supposed similarity to Mesoamerican and Egyptian wonders? All pyramid-like structures function and look the same? No recognition for the earliest civilization in the Andes? And somehow Qorikancha is more of a wonder than the Caral Pyramids?

It was not I who said that they are redundant with the Pyramids of Egypt, it was another member who said that. In my last post about the Caral Pyramids, I said that we already have 3 pyramids in the game and they are not in front of other pyramids for me. And the Caral Pyramids are not my fourth or fifth and maybe not even the sixth choice for more pyramids in the game. The oldest civilization of the Andes can be represented in the game through a city-state, as Mohenjo-daro, another ancient city. Qorikancha also does not appeal to me as much as wonder, but at least it was the most important Inca temple, however a wonder called "Caral Pyramids" seems to me to be very strange for me, if there were at least one pyramid that stood out in beauty, size or importance... I could change my mind.

 

[Guandao]

Al-Qarawiyyin Mosque and University 17
Burj Al Arab (5-3)=2 Another wonder that would be late-game, please no.
Cairo Citadel 18
Caral Pyramids (4+1)=5 Caral Pyramids is a strange name, I agree with that. I think the pyramid in the site of Caral is the most distinctive, with its circular court. Perhap Temple Pyramid of Caral is a more suitable name. Caral can be a CS, but only if it allows the suzerain to build those pyramid temples as a UI. There are so many other Andean choices for CS, including Tiwanaku, Huari/Wari, Cahuachi, Chan Chan, Moche. Mohenjo-Daro CS should allow the suzerain to build the Great Bath. It's current suzerain bonus is kind of unrealistic.
Chrysler Building 24
Cliff Palace 24
Coney Island 6
Cothon of Carthage 15
Gyeongbokgung Palace 25
Karnak Temples 21
Palais des Papes 19
Qorikancha 14
Santa Maria del Fiore 29
Smithsonian Institution 15
St. Mark's Basilica 22
Teatro Amazonas 8
Tomb of Antiochus I 25

 

[God of Kings]

Al-Qarawiyyin Mosque and University 17
Burj Al Arab 2 - 3 = ELIMINATED Burj Khalifa would be a much better choice for a wonder from Dubai
Cairo Citadel 18
Caral Pyramids 5
Chrysler Building 24
Cliff Palace 24
Coney Island 6 + 1 = 7 There needs to be an industrial era entertainment wonder
Cothon of Carthage 15
Gyeongbokgung Palace 25
Karnak Temples 21
Palais des Papes 19
Qorikancha 14
Santa Maria del Fiore 29
Smithsonian Institution 15
St. Mark's Basilica 22
Teatro Amazonas 8
Tomb of Antiochus I 25

 

[luigilime]

Al-Qarawiyyin Mosque and University 17
Cairo Citadel 18
Caral Pyramids 5
Chrysler Building 24
Cliff Palace 24
Coney Island 7-3 I don't think it's the best choice for an industrial entertainment wonder. Onestly i would prefer something like a famous cinema or even Hollywood but I don't see this theme park as a wonder
Cothon of Carthage 15
Gyeongbokgung Palace 25
Karnak Temples 21
Palais des Papes 19
Qorikancha 14
Santa Maria del Fiore 29+1=30 no need to explain this anymore
Smithsonian Institution 15
St. Mark's Basilica 22
Teatro Amazonas 8
Tomb of Antiochus I 25
@Guandao it was me that compared the caral pyramids to the Egyptian ones and I must apologize I didn't do my research before but now that I looked at the site and possible reconstructions they are very similar to other mesoamerican temples. I'd love the Idea of a possible CS