Never before seen wonders - Elimination Thread

[Morningcalm]

Churches of Lalibela 33 - 3 = 30 (I don't see the fascination. It's not a free-standing structure, it's a group of churches, and no one church among them is amazing. There are better African wonders out there, even beyond Egypt's and the University of Sankore. The Churches unfortunately fail to impress me, despite their origin. Another issue is that this wonder would assuredly be religious in nature, and we have plenty of those. The Pyramid they could at least parlay into other non-religious fields, i.e. science or archaeology.)
Pyramid of the Sun 32 + 1 = 33 (Iconic and amazing, and not in many Civ games.)

 

[Roman Citizen]

Churches of Lalibela 30-3=27 This is my second place.
Pyramid of the Sun 33+1=34 This is my first place.

 

[Kimiimaro]

Churches of Lalibela 27+1=28 - This is amazing. Also, we don't have anything similar in game (OK, maybe Petra).
Pyramid of the Sun 34-3=31 - We already have Huey Teocalli and Chichén Itzá as the Mesoamerican pyramid wonders. Pyramid of the Sun can wait.

 

[Xandinho]

Churches of Lalibela 28 + 1 = 29 A hard choice now, I really want both. But Ethiopia really needs a lot of a wonder in the game, and this is number one.
Pyramid of the Sun 31 - 3 = 28 I've explained above, second place is great.

 

[Siptah]

Churches of Lalibela 30 (29+1) 1st place, was the best from the beginning on and deserves to win.
Pyramid of the Sun 25 (28-3) 2nd place is good for this one, and there are already 2 Mesoamerican wonders in the game, as opposed to none from Ethiopia or close regions.

 

[Guandao]

Churches of Lalibela (30+1)=31 Africa needs more wonders
Pyramid of the Sun (25-3)=22 2nd place is good spot for it, Mesoamerica already has two wonders.

 

[Roman Citizen]

Churches of Lalibela 31-3=28
Pyramid of the Sun 22+1=23
Same as last time.

 

[Xandinho]

Churches of Lalibela 28 + 1 = 29 I really want both in the game, but at the moment...
Pyramid of the Sun 23 - 3 = 20 Africa needs more of a wonder than Mesoamerica.

 

[Kimiimaro]

Churches of Lalibela 29+1=30 - Yes please.
Pyramid of the Sun 20-3=17 - Great wonder, but we already have two Mesoamerican pyramid wonders in the game. This can wait.

 

[Morningcalm]

Churches of Lalibela 30 - 3 = 27 (Nothing wondrous about these at all. Petra is far more wondrous, and it's actually a single unified structure. These churches are simply unique because they are in holes. But what would the bonus for these even be? Yet another religious wonder is not necessary, and I don't see how this one could be parlayed into science bonuses or economic bonuses or anything other than religion and culture basically, which is what we have most of in Civ VI as is.)
Pyramid of the Sun 17 + 1 = 18 (A glorious and mysterious standby of an ancient civilization.)

 

[Siptah]

Petra is far more wondrous, and it's actually a single unified structure.

No, it isn't. It's a whole city. Civ tends to represent it with a single building though: Chaznat al-Fir'aun. It really should be renamed, along with Ruhr Valley. Building cities and whole river valleys in your cities always gives me headaches.

 

[Kimiimaro]

No, it isn't. It's a whole city. Civ tends to represent it with a single building though: Chaznat al-Fir'aun. It really should be renamed, along with Ruhr Valley. Building cities and whole river valleys in your cities always gives me headaches.

While we're at it, Kremlin from earlier games should be really renamed to St. Basil's Cathedral and it shouldn't be symbol of Communism.

 

[Guandao]

Churches of Lalibela (27+1)=28 More religious wonders can't hurt. How are these churches not wondrous?
Pyramid of the Sun (18-3)=15 Mesoamerica already has wonders

 

[Manifold]

Churches of Lalibela 25 (28-3) great, but too new (1200 AD)
Pyramid of the Sun 16 (15+1) great, because very old (200 BC)

I like both and make this game a bit more exiting

 

[Guandao]

Score should be
Churches of Lalibela 25
Pyramid of the Sun 16

 

[God of Kings]

While we're at it, Kremlin from earlier games should be really renamed to St. Basil's Cathedral and it shouldn't be symbol of Communism.

That is extremely true. Even the Soviets under Lenin and Stalin wanted to demolish St. Basil's Cathedral, since they believed that "religion is the opiate of the masses." They were unable to do so, primarily because by the start of the Second World War, even the most secular Bolshevik was in favour of keeping the church.

 

[Kimiimaro]

That is extremely true. Even the Soviets wanted to demolish St. Basil Cathedral, since they believed that "religion is the opiate of the masses." They were unable to do so.

That's right, but my main issue with it is that both Kremlin and the cathedral were built during medieval/renaissance times and Firaxis allways put Kremlin/cathedral as a communisum wonder buildable in modern era.

 

[God of Kings]

That's right, but my main issue with it is that both Kremlin and the cathedral were built during medieval/renaissance times and Firaxis allways put Kremlin/cathedral as a communisum wonder buildable in modern era.

There are better wonders to represent communism. Unfortunately, The Motherland Calls is copyrighted. Ostankino Tower could be used (and even designed by the same architect as The Motherland Calls).

 

[Manifold]

There are better wonders to represent communism. Unfortunately, The Motherland Calls is copyrighted. Ostankino Tower could be used (and even designed by the same architect as The Motherland Calls).

Lenin's Mausoleum for communism.
Kremlin for huge empire builders.

 

[Morningcalm]

No, it isn't. It's a whole city. Civ tends to represent it with a single building though: Chaznat al-Fir'aun. It really should be renamed, along with Ruhr Valley. Building cities and whole river valleys in your cities always gives me headaches.

Wasn't the whole city carved into the same rocky valley?

In any event, even if not, my point remains that the Churches of Laibella pale in comparison to Petra. Maybe they could make them a unique improvement rather than a unique wonder, in the same way that Palmyran tower tombs are not *wonders* but are indeed cool structures that would work as unique improvements.