pre-release info New Civ Game Guide: Inca

[Zaarin]

I wish Pachacuti's abilities tied more to his own militaristic and expansion abilities rahter than just an extension of generic Incan ones

I think attaching the mountain bonuses to Pachacuti was clever; that way they last all game. I do wish we'd gotten a different Sapa Inca, though. It's been Pachacuti every game except Huayna Capac in Civ4. Recasting him from Kronk to Kuzco doesn't actually make him feel like a fresh face.

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

It's been Pachacuti every game except Huayna Capac in Civ4. Recasting him from Kronk to Kuzco doesn't actually make him feel like a fresh face.

I thought this iteration was Yzma, and Cuzco was the Civ 5 version.

 

[Zaarin]

I thought this iteration was Yzma, and Cuzco was the Civ 5 version.

If his agenda denounce message is that he never liked my spinach puffs, I might forgive him for showing up again. (Also he's crazy. My spinach puffs are amazing. I need to make them again sometime.)

 

[Thenewwwguy]

I think attaching the mountain bonuses to Pachacuti was clever; that way they last all game. I do wish we'd gotten a different Sapa Inca, though. It's been Pachacuti every game except Huayna Capac in Civ4. Recasting him from Kronk to Kuzco doesn't actually make him feel like a fresh face.

i actually find it crazy that we’ve never gotten Tupac Amaru

(also didn’t they do Atahualpa in Civ 2 for some reason, not that civ 2 leaders mean anything)

 

[Zaarin]

(also didn’t they do Atahualpa in Civ 2 for some reason, not that civ 2 leaders mean anything)

I don't remember. I think Atahualpa would be kind of fun in Monty's traditional slot: insane, bloodthirsty, waving around his brother's skull as a drinking cup...

 

[Thenewwwguy]

I don't remember. I think Atahualpa would be kind of fun in Monty's traditional slot: insane, bloodthirsty, waving around his brother's skull as a drinking cup...

i wouldn’t hate atahualpa as much if his crowning achievement was anything other than signing his people away to oppression and getting played while doing it

i think you also make a good point about why we prob didn’t see him in civ-tied editions of the game though: his caricature would inevitably be “out of character” for how firaxis traditionally likes to portray the Inca (despite their imperialism being one of their most important facets)

 

[Zaarin]

i wouldn’t hate atahualpa as much if his crowning achievement was anything other than signing his people away to oppression and getting played while doing it

i think you also make a good point about why we prob didn’t see him in civ-tied editions of the game though: his caricature would inevitably be “out of character” for how firaxis traditionally likes to portray the Inca (despite their imperialism being one of their most important facets)

Yes, I can absolutely understand wanting better representatives for indigenous cultures that were and still are conquered. I just think he'd also be a fun personality. Kind of like Nebuchadnezzar's paranoid grumblings in Civ5. (Which, incidentally, the depressed, PTSD-stricken Esarhaddon would be a great successor to, as well. Except aside from having PTSD he also had major accomplishments like rebuilding Babylon after his father smashed it to pieces.)

 

[Thenewwwguy]

Yes, I can absolutely understand wanting better representatives for indigenous cultures that were and still are conquered. I just think he'd also be a fun personality. Kind of like Nebuchadnezzar's paranoid grumblings in Civ5. (Which, incidentally, the depressed, PTSD-stricken Esarhaddon would be a great successor to, as well. Except aside from having PTSD he also had major accomplishments like rebuilding Babylon after his father smashed it to pieces.)

oh yes, totally agree here

i’d still argue that in a world where we hadn’t gotten Lautaro and the Mapuche, Tupac Amaru II would’ve also been a unique and interesting spin on the inca, but that’s neither here nor there

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

(also didn’t they do Atahualpa in Civ 2 for some reason, not that civ 2 leaders mean anything)

Inca were found in the game files in Civ 2, like Arabia, but were unused in the actual game. Neither of them had planned female leaders but Atahualpa was the planned leader for them.