New civilization: Portugal

[raen]

- turn the LHs animated
- create the own model of the UU
- create diplomacy texts of the leaders
- create the sounds of the civilization... the same file could be used to Brazil too.

thats great


For Dom Afonso Henriques I have this introdution for now

(1109 - 1185)

D. Afonso Henriques was the first King of Portugal. In virtue of his multiple conquests – that in 40 years more than duplicated the territory his father gave him has legacy – he was to be known as The Conqueror. The Muslims in sign of respect called him El-Bortukali (“The Portuguese&#8221.


As for Infante Dom Henrique I think wikipedia text fits

(1394–1460)

Henrique, Duke of Viseu , was an infante (prince) of the Portuguese House of Aviz and an important figure in the early days of the Portuguese Empire. He is known in English as Prince Henry the Navigator or the Seafarer (Portuguese: o Navegador).

Henry the Navigator was the third son of John I of Portugal, the founder of the Aviz dynasty; and of Philippa of Lancaster, the daughter of John of Gaunt. Henry reportedly inspired his father's successful conquest (1414-1415) of the Muslim port of Ceuta, on the North African coast across the Straits of Gibraltar from the Iberian peninsula, with profound consequences on Henry's worldview: Henry saw the fruits of the Saharan trade routes that terminated there and became fascinated with Africa in general, with the legend of Prester John, and with expanding Portuguese trade.

To this end, at his Vila do Infante ("Prince's Town") at Sagres, Henry gathered around him a school of navigators and map-makers and became the patron of the Portuguese voyages of discovery, which commenced soon after the capture of Ceuta. The school at Sagres achieved several advances in the art of navigation, and their discoveries provided the groundwork for Portugal's colonial expansion in the reign of King John II of Portugal, Henry's great-nephew, in 1481. Thus, Henry had a considerable impact on the course of history, arguably having sparked European interest in colonial exploration—and given Portugal a significant advantage against other nations—that would so transform the world for the next four centuries.


for music I suggest this one Portuguese traditional music

 

[CarvaJP]

Thank you, CivArmy for the work you've done. I'll be looking at it as I get a grasp of Civ 4 things and hope to contribute with some suggestions.

 

[CivArmy s. 1994]

cool texts and suggestions, I can add then in a future version!

 

[nyonix]

Can i play with this mod in multi?

Btw, Great Job!

 

[Zenon_pt]

NICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PORTUGAL

 

[Portuguese]

You are a God Mod!
All Hail to CivArmy!!!

 

[CivArmy s. 1994]

thanks for playing irmãos de Portugal!

BTW, we could produce (in the future) unique texts to the leaders + sounds to Portugal + theme music, my pleasure to add all these new stuff in the mod.

 

[raen]

thanks for playing irmãos de Portugal!

BTW, we could produce (in the future) unique texts to the leaders + sounds to Portugal + theme music, my pleasure to add all these new stuff in the mod.

My toughts also that would be great

 

[Robo Magic Man]

I'm making a Sengoku Scenario and wanted to add a small Portugese settlement to the map. Could I use your mod?

 

[Zenon_pt]

to CivArmy s. 1994

I take my hat off to you. It's 5 stars... and can become 6 stars or more...

To start it, is very good what already seen and read.

Yet the colors of the flag are from the Republic.

If you decide to remove the colors and keep the blazon(brasão). It's a suggestion.

keep on with the great work.

 

[raen]

...remove the colors and keep the blazon(brasão). It's a suggestion.

I agree with you since the blazon simbolizes all that is portuguese, the colors only the republic. I can do that (I made my 3D one ) but I dont have time now. When I do we can compare the two versions.

 

[CivArmy s. 1994]

I'm making a Sengoku Scenario and wanted to add a small Portugese settlement to the map. Could I use your mod?

yes, u can. My pleasure to create a civ to your scenario


@Raen and @Zenon_pt: when u have time u can create the new flag and we can check how this new version will be in the game and then choice the best The flag size must be 128x128 and can use any extension, I'm able to convert it to *.dds late.

 

[CarvaJP]

Going through it (but before trying Portugal as a Civilization), I would like to advance some thoughts or emphazise others already expressed in this thread:

1) Condensing a Civ leadership to one or two is a rather difficult choice, but that being the rule, I would certainly drop D. Afonso Henriques in favour of D. João II, for obvious relevance to the development of Portugal as a civ. Let's face it: our first king did start the reign (which his father wanted, but never came to do), and spread his rule to about half of what Portugal is today. On the other hand, it was D. João II who actually laid out the foundations and effort for our glory epoch, and our limited period as the number 1 power in the Western world.

2) There's always going to be difficult to adjust a traditional maritime country like Portugal to the vagarities of random selection for an initial starting selection of the capital, so that's why I believe we were left out from Syd Meyer's screening for civs, unless we use an actual world representation of Earth. Nevertheless, there's one additional issue, which is Spain: as far as a UNIFIED country goes, Spain is much more recent (and still struggling in some areas), but it would be very hard to circunscript the real History to the game, which is NOT about recreating it. This said, it's quite difficult to give an advantage to the boats mentioned (caravels, carracks, etc) if in your actual game you end up in a position like, say Switzerland. This could be eased in game contents and design if Portugal had an advantage in discovering or unveiling new territories, trading (a definite plus), or settling.

3) Weapon-wise, Portugal introduced the rifle to Japan, and drastically changed that country's history, along with religion. Food for thought.

4) Portuguese colonization was very different from the other colonizing powers of the 16th and 17th Centuries, where spreading Christianity and mingling with the local population was deemed the best aculturation and colonization process. That led to the failure in actual and really exploiting new found territories and their inhabitants, and ultimately contributed to Portugal's downfall as a major power. Late monarchs (especially after the 19th century civil war) and the ensuing republic from 1910 killed all prospects for the country to have a pale comeback to previous days of glory. In game terms, this would could be reflected by a more difficult or more expensive way to obtain the more recent techs.

5) I would use one of the (several) beautiful national flags of the monarchy era of Portuguese history (an official 767 year span), instead of a republican flag (accounting for an aditional 96 years of History).

Thank you for bearing with me.

 

[raen]

@Raen and @Zenon_pt: when u have time u can create the new flag and we can check how this new version will be in the game and then choice the best The flag size must be 128x128 and can use any extension, I'm able to convert it to *.dds late.

here is one version:

 

[raen]

Going through it (but before trying Portugal as a Civilization), I would like to advance some thoughts or emphazise others already expressed in this thread:
(...)

R1: I think D. Afonso Henriques is more important, because he started what we are. And Infante D. Henrique started what would be the portuguese empire. But maybe you can convince me saying what did D. Joao II that is so great? (than building a country and starting age of discovery)

R2&3: For that I think arcabuzeiro fits. but your ideas are cool, but what unit would it be?

R5: I can do some versions when I have more time and we see the best.

 

[CarvaJP]

On the issue of D. João II, the Perfect Prince:
Born 1455;
1471 - he gets his knighthood on the expedition to Arzila;
1475 - he beats Fernando, the Catholic in the battle of Toro;
1479 - Treaty of Alcáçovas, which reserves Portugal the right to sail beyond Las Canarias;
1484: - Discovery of Zaire river, by Diogo Cão; Afonso Paiva and Pêro da Covilhã travel to Egypt and Ethiopia;
1487 - Bartolomeu Dias passes beyond the Cape of Good Hope, thereby completing the recocgnition of he entire western coast of Africa;
1494 - The Tordesillas Treaty is signed with Castela (later Spain), giving Portugal rights to call the majority of the Atlantic Ocean mare clausum, and establishes land borders on both sides of the Ocean (it is debatable if the King knew the American continent was there, but his refusal to finantially support Columbus is a strong argument in favour of this view);
1495 - Dies during the preparation of the armada for Vasco da Gama's voyage to India, which he never sees...

Is this enough to convince you?

 

[CarvaJP]

On the national flag issue this link http://www.portugal.gov.pt/Portal/PT/Portugal/Simbolos_Nacionais/BandeiraNacional_Evolucao.htm
shows all the national flags we had and have; there's no corresponding page in English

 

[TribeTime26]

How close are we to leaderhead animation?

 

[CarvaJP]

R2&3: For that I think arcabuzeiro fits. but your ideas are cool, but what unit would it be?

I have no qualms with arcabuzeiro, although that was not the weapon we favoured as ranged weaponry goes ( I don't also want to be too picky on this).

Since I haven't explored the mod functions through Python and xml, I really cannot give an educated guess on what the advantage should be for scouts, traders or settlers. Or, for the fact, missionaries or fighting religious orders. To keep in tune with historical perspective, and avoid unbalancing, I would suggest some sort of trading improvement, since religion is an off shot.

(on a side note for the issue on D. João II: due to the difficult internal times and power struggles with the nobility and other royal pretenders, he was also named the Tyrant by his opponents; those interested in diplomacy can also point out that he married his son to the sole daughter of the Catholic Kings, thereby having a claim to unify both reigns, but his son was killed in a horse accident, some say at the agency of the kings of Castela and Aragon. He was followed by D. Manuel I, who gathered the legacy of his predecessor, had his advisors improve on it, but squandered most of the wealth acquired by the Realm, like the famous embassy to the Pope).

 

[raen]

On the issue of D. João II, the Perfect Prince:
Born 1455;
1471 - he gets his knighthood on the expedition to Arzila;
1475 - he beats Fernando, the Catholic in the battle of Toro;
1479 - Treaty of Alcáçovas, which reserves Portugal the right to sail beyond Las Canarias;
1484: - Discovery of Zaire river, by Diogo Cão; Afonso Paiva and Pêro da Covilhã travel to Egypt and Ethiopia;
1487 - Bartolomeu Dias passes beyond the Cape of Good Hope, thereby completing the recocgnition of he entire western coast of Africa;
1494 - The Tordesillas Treaty is signed with Castela (later Spain), giving Portugal rights to call the majority of the Atlantic Ocean mare clausum, and establishes land borders on both sides of the Ocean (it is debatable if the King knew the American continent was there, but his refusal to finantially support Columbus is a strong argument in favour of this view);
1495 - Dies during the preparation of the armada for Vasco da Gama's voyage to India, which he never sees...

Is this enough to convince you?

no lol it would substitute infante Dom Henrique instead since it is almost from same time and not D. Afonso Henriques, and what one is better to be in game? Infante D. Henrique or D.Joao II?

I stick to those two that are already for one reason also, they putted their hands into it, they were in the action, mainly D. Afonso Henriques.