New Version - 4.16.2 (October 6, 2024)

[Tekamthi]

What is the appeal to keep playing Deity if you never win?

immortal is too easy when playing my fave civs/strats -- the jump to deity is steeper than any other difficulty though, we could really use some kind of intermediate option. Maybe immortal yields with deity unit spam or sumthin

 

[Chorda]

I have another question.
My peace treaty expired with Danes long ago, however I cannot declare war on them. Because of existing peace treaty with their ally (defensive pact).

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Then I go to vassal screen, declare war and all of them are involved, voila! without any problems.
I honestly don't remember in older versions that your allies can save you from war if they are at peace with warmonger in this way.

 

[azum4roll]

There aren't supposed to be a declare war option on vassals...

 

[hokath]

I cannot declare war on them. Because of existing peace treaty with their ally (defensive pact).

Yes this behavior changed in a recent version -- i'd need to dig to find which -- and it does seem a bit weird. There was a discussion on the discord about it ~last week.
@Recursive thoughts on this?

 

[Chorda]

I can expand a bit. Danes came to my nearest city with 4-5 frigates and 2 corvettes, asked for tribute, which I declined ofc. And then he retreated. Seems he wasn't able to declare war on me because of Japan too, which is at least awkward lol.
ps. my philosophy is - if two civs are eager to fight, nothing must keep them from it.