New Version - December 13th (12-13)

[Robertm94]

I have another bug, do not know if it is specific to this patch

Ghandi offered me money and a luxury to declare war on Darius.

I took the offer.

The next turn a pre-existing deal had lost value in the eyes of his people so it ended.

I lost all the income from the war deal and was still stuck at war with the biggest military in that game with nothing to show for it.

 

[Zymos]

I have another bug, do not know if it is specific to this patch

Ghandi offered me money and a luxury to declare war on Darius.

I took the offer.

The next turn a pre-existing deal had lost value in the eyes of his people so it ended.

I lost all the income from the war deal and was still stuck at war with the biggest military in that game with nothing to show for it.

Read the bug-posting rules then post it to github here: https://github.com/LoneGazebo/Community-Patch-DLL/issues

 

[bigcat88]

Religion enhancer on resources amount was upped? (was 25%, become 50%?)
Right now in new game, didn't see +50% from resources, maybe description mistake?

 

[Gazebo]

Religion enhancer on resources amount was upped? (was 25%, become 50%?)
Right now in new game, didn't see +50% from resources, maybe description mistake?

50% on each tile. Not total.

 

[Gazebo]

I have another bug, do not know if it is specific to this patch

Ghandi offered me money and a luxury to declare war on Darius.

I took the offer.

The next turn a pre-existing deal had lost value in the eyes of his people so it ended.

I lost all the income from the war deal and was still stuck at war with the biggest military in that game with nothing to show for it.

You sure it wasn't two different deals?

 

[bigcat88]

Religion enhancer on resources amount was upped? (was 25%, become 50%?)
Right now in new game, didn't see +50% from resources, maybe description mistake?

Local Horses: 8 (must be 9?)
-->Venice: 2(one tile)
-->Kaupang: 4(one tile)
Local Iron: 9 (yeah, here 50%)
-->Kaupang: 6(one tile)
No deals with horses, don't know what is that.

 

[infidel88]

Still can't dig in foreign lands from time to time - this is my vassal

 

[Enginseer]

Mutual Open borders?

 

[civfnaticfan]

CP is crazy good , however for this patch, although tile borders expansion is a bit better, but luxury and hills are still NOT getting priority. I have inserted a screenshot of two of my other cities where the two Dye luxuries are not claimed(at 1400AD!) even when impassable mountains are claimed. One next to Edinburg and one next to Babylon. This also happens in many of the cities and AI's which cause some AI to build units slow because their border do not allow them to claim nearby hills.....
My luxury tile next to my capital is also still not clinched even after all my surrounding desert and impassable mountain tiles are obtained as my border... Anyone still have the iteroi patch for changing the tile expansion back to how it was during the Nov 10 v88 patch?

 

[CrazyG]

I am still seeing the above problem as well

 

[tu_79]

Actually the cultural tile expansion in Nov 10th patch was superbly done, why was this changed in 5th dec patch?

https://forums.civfanatics.com/threads/new-version-december-5th-12-5.606780/page-3#post-14595754
In Ilteroi's words: To better guide the AI towards good tiles.
My guess is that current logic makes a 'shadow' on some tiles. A terrain too harsh, difficult to reach by straigh line from the city, or other penalties that overcome the likeliness for the resource, so it expands first to the side tiles. It is valueing 'distance' considering the terrain between the object tile and the city, and the terrain of the object tile itself. If it were using the pathfinding algorithm to calculate real distance, it could overcome this 'shadow', but that feature could be too difficult to implement.
Anyway, I agree with Ilteroi intention. It just needs more fine tuning.

 

[CrazyG]

Recently the cost of late game techs was reduced, I'm curious what the reasoning for this was? I was able to get a turn 268 science win as Korea (Immortal, Standard Speed, Pangea) on a less than ideal tundra start, with no coal and no rivers (so no slater mill). This seems too early, and I'm pretty sure that a much faster win is possible

 

[Txurce]

Recently the cost of late game techs was reduced, I'm curious what the reasoning for this was? I was able to get a turn 268 science win as Korea (Immortal, Standard Speed, Pangea) on a less than ideal tundra start, with no coal and no rivers (so no slater mill). This seems too early, and I'm pretty sure that a much faster win is possible

How many turns did the late-game tech reduction take off your finish?

 

[CrazyG]

How many turns did the late-game tech reduction take off your finish?

I don't the know the exact numbers, but I feel like it was a lot. IIRC finishing before turn 300 used to be considered fast (I typically don't pay attention to when I win). Now I'm thinking Korea should easily be getting before 270, and those extra turns make a big difference. In that game there was a good possibility Sweden could have won a diplo before 290 but the UN wasn't even done building when I launched.

And I think you could get much faster, I was next to aggressive Sweden, had a bad fit in monopoly and corporation, and only founded 3 cities.

 

[bigcat88]

Why guided missile increase unit cap and nuclear missile not? I think guided missile must not increase unit cap. Cause it's not a unit.
Why I can still buy airplanes(bombers or fighters) when I am at unit cap?

 

[tu_79]

Why guided missile increase unit cap and nuclear missile not? I think guided missile must not increase unit cap. Cause it's not a unit.
Why I can still buy airplanes(bombers or fighters) when I am at unit cap?

I think civil units do count too. At least, when I disband a worker, diplomat or anything, the maintenace for units is reduced.

 

[bigcat88]

I think civil units do count too. At least, when I disband a worker, diplomat or anything, the maintenace for units is reduced.

I am not about maintenance, I am about military unit cap. If u have more units u allow, then u cant buy new and got production penalty(10% for every unit).

 

[Enginseer]

I am not about maintenance, I am about military unit cap. If u have more units u allow, then u cant buy new and got production penalty(10% for every unit).

Go wide, Adopt authority's imperium, or increase your population.

 

[bigcat88]

Go wide, Adopt authority's imperium, or increase your population.

I just asked, why one type of missiles counted as military unit, and other type not. nvm)

 

[infidel88]

My luxury tile next to my capital is also still not clinched even after all my surrounding desert and impassable mountain tiles are obtained as my border... Anyone still have the iteroi patch for changing the tile expansion back to how it was during the Nov 10 v88 patch?

This hurts CS a lot. There is plenty of CS in my games without a single resource because of that. And way easier to make monopolies.