Newt: Every Human Should Have a Gun!

[Borachio]

I suggest everyone must have a gun. And an automatic one at that. And that it should be compulsory switched on (if that's the right term - I have never even held a gun*) at all times, loaded and squirting out bullets everywhere. That should show them....other people. Dang right!

*This isn't true. Once at a fair ground. And twice with other people's air rifles. I never really took to all that squinting down a barrel business, though.

 

[GoodSarmatian]

I hope this happens, I fancy an AK

Typical Brit. Whines about sovereignty and the EU, and then wants the USA to force their crazy laws on everyone else

Arming everyone in China would be the best way to end Communism there.

Socialism effectively ended in the eighties.
If you want democratisation, I dare hope there are better ways than a bloody civil war.

 

[rugbyLEAGUEfan]

"Every human should have a gun"....silly position but not silly enough to be considered politically disadvantageous given the number of advisors who had to tick "Yes , let's go with it" beforehand.

"Every human should NOT have a gun".....The ramblings of a madman .

 

[Borachio]

Spoiler :

Cousin Americans! Please don't think I'm having a go (well, alright I'm having a bit of a go - but in good heart) but I've noticed that you like to maintain the moral high ground on a number of issues. So can you please explain the existence of the Guantanamo Bay penal colony.

I understand you can't keep "enemy combatants" on American soil, since then they would be able to claim some legal rights which I can see might be a tad awkward.

And why as, historically, you've been so vehemently anti-communist, is it a good idea to lease this penal colony from one of the few remaining communist strongholds?

Really, I don't get it. (and no doubt it's been done to death elsewhere, just I haven't found it, yet)

Also, for a nation of right-on people, why is conscription necessary?

http://tomstephenson.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/big-game.html

I heard that his brother (or his son) accidentally shot himself in the foot. Either that was a traditional way of opting out of the situation (like WW1), in which case he has my respect, or it was yet another bit of Darwin theory in action, in which case he has my admiration.

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John GrayApr 20, 2012 02:49 PM

his son apparently was wearing novelty rabbit slippers at the time

Is this a good enough reason to recommend non-universal gun ownership?

 

[Farm Boy]

So can you please explain the existence of the Guantanamo Bay penal colony.

Guantanamo Bay is an abomination that survives because many of our citizens can't be assed to think very hard about a situation that both gives them cognitive dissonance and does not have an easy solution.

why as, historically, you've been so vehemently anti-communist, is it a good idea to lease this penal colony from one of the few remaining communist strongholds?

It's not.

Also, for a nation of right-on people, why is conscription necessary?

Confused, conscription? As in a military draft? We have not had one since the 1970s. The US military at the moment is a volunteer force.

Is this a good enough reason to recommend non-universal gun ownership?

Newt is insane. US states bar all manner of folks from gun ownership.

Either way, I am still rolling with my assessment that we could stand to "butch up" our scarf-wearing European brethren with some firearms so they don't need to rely so much on the implicit support of our big, burly, volunteer US soldiers for their national defense.

 

[Borachio]

Confused, conscription? As in a military draft? We have not had one since the 1970s. The US military at the moment is a volunteer force.

Then, I am simply mistaken; rather than confused.

As of 2011, male U.S. citizens, if aged eighteen through twenty five, are required to register with the Selective Service System, whose mission is "to provide manpower to the armed forces in an emergency" including a "Health Care Personnel Delivery System"[41] and "to run an Alternative Service Program for men classified as conscientious objectors during a draft." No one has been prosecuted for violating the conscription law in the USA since 1986.

 

[Farm Boy]

Ah ok. I meant to say "I am confused."

The framework is in place should a draft be called. The first piece of mail I received on my 18th birthday was a Gillette Mach 3 razor as a promotion. It must have worked as I still use it. The 2nd piece of mail I received was my Selective Service card.

 

[Borachio]

5 char

 

[uppi]

At least we wouldn't have to worry about prison overpopulation anymore. One way or another, the prisons would be quite empty pretty soon.

 

[Ajidica]

Socialism effectively ended in the eighties.

I would say Maoism, because if our resident commies have taught me anything, it is that Maoists are pretty much nutters.

 

[Borachio]

And socialism is: from each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs?

This idea ended in the 80's? Or this idea ceased to find expression through the major party lines of Western Liberal Democracies during the 80's? Please excuse nit-picketry.

"butch up" our scarf-wearing European brethren with some firearms so they don't need to rely so much on the implicit support of our big, burly, volunteer US soldiers for their national defense.

Yeah, if we can't defend ourselves, forget us, I say. European countries are fully grown-up. Or at least, they are no more children than the US.

 

[GoodSarmatian]

I would say Maoism, because if our resident commies have taught me anything, it is that Maoists are pretty much nutters.

If you want to be that specific...
Apart from sime prive-fixing ,a couple of remaining state owned enterprises and propaganda lip-service there's not really much socialism going on in China.

This idea ended in the 80's? Or this idea ceased to find expression through the major party lines of Western Liberal Democracies during the 80's? Please excuse nit-picketry.

I just meant socialism as a political system in China.

 

[Borachio]

"some price-fixing" ? I am thinking this is what you mean. But I'm not sure.

 

[Antilogic]

I just meant socialism as a political system in China.

These words really are meaningless now.

 

[Borachio]

"Socialism" I take it you think is meaningless.

How about: political, system, China, mean, I, and words?

 

[Arwon]

before launching into a proposal for a new U.N. treaty guaranteeing a universal right to gun ownership

 

[Farm Boy]

Yeah, if we can't defend ourselves, forget us, I say. European countries are fully grown-up. Or at least, they are no more children than the US.

Just in case it didn't come through over text, tongue is firmly in cheek. Mostly I just wanted to make fun of the scarves.

If we really wanted to roll with this line of thought I really rather doubt the American people would be willing to drop Europe in a crises. I suspect much the reciprocal is true as well.

 

[Borachio]

Well, I think Europe and the US would happily part, if only there weren't so many relatives of each one living in the other.

 

[NedimNapoleon]

great Newt you just started another war on the Balkans.

 

[Farm Boy]

Well, I think Europe and the US would happily part, if only there weren't so many relatives of each one living in the other.

That would be because we are far more similar than pride on either side cares admit.