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Socialism isn't winning anywhere. There's just a few last gasps against being reduced to serfdom going on.
Nicolas Maduro Wins Venezuelan Presidency in Close Race
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Socialism isn't winning anywhere. There's just a few last gasps against being reduced to serfdom going on.
The opposition has not recognized the results. Seems like the fraud was more blatant than usual.
It's remarkable that even with all the intimidation going on, with the army making threats and Maduro calling opposition voters traitors, Venezuelano still went out and voted for Caprilles.
Internationally, only the dumbest of the dumb will keep endorsing chavismo.
It's remarkable that even with all the intimidation going on, with the army making threats and Maduro calling opposition voters traitors, Venezuelano still went out and voted for Caprilles.
Internationally, only the dumbest of the dumb will keep endorsing chavismo.
Cheezy the Wiz
Socialist In A Hurry
I don't know enough about Maduro to know if he can adequately fill Chavez's shoes. His whole presidency is going to be compared to Chavez, he'll always be in his shadow, even if that comparison isn't fair.
Maduro's administration is the real test of Chavez's accomplishments: whether he was a Tito, who held things together by the strength of his personal charisma, or whether the foundations go deeper than the man and meaningful change has been made that can support the regime's ideals, and not merely the man. If that is the case, this may be very good for Venezuelans, as they can now focus more on the ideas for improving their society and less on the international show and the Chavez bravado that presumably held the place together during shakier years.
Someone you don't like won, boo hoo. Every time this happens you come in screaming about fraud and corruption. But never surrounding people you like, right?
Maduro's administration is the real test of Chavez's accomplishments: whether he was a Tito, who held things together by the strength of his personal charisma, or whether the foundations go deeper than the man and meaningful change has been made that can support the regime's ideals, and not merely the man. If that is the case, this may be very good for Venezuelans, as they can now focus more on the ideas for improving their society and less on the international show and the Chavez bravado that presumably held the place together during shakier years.
Someone you don't like won, boo hoo. Every time this happens you come in screaming about fraud and corruption. But never surrounding people you like, right?
ReindeerThistle
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It's remarkable, really, that in spite of the opposition being overtly supported by the US, the NED and millions of dollars of money and CIA expertise, that they can't pull off a presidential victory over a Socialist bus driver.
Really? From you, luiz, that is a compliment. I can't argue with that "logic."
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TheLastOne36
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Lol what? What makes you say that?
The coalition of interests Capriles represents wrecked Venezuela and have generally put a torch to things in Latin America since independence. I'm not going to trust the first handsome guy that comes along and promises social democracy.
Maduro on the other hand seems to be doing a fairly normal political strategy. He is hoping to capitalize on Chavez's death, playing to that base since he only needed to capture at least as much (or close to it) to win. I don't condone what he said on the campaign, god knows I was hard enough on Romney last year, and I think it breeds unnecessary antagonism against opposition voters...but like I said, I can't bring myself to actually hope that Capriles wins.
In other words, you know nothing about Latin America in general and Venezuela in particular.
Anyone who brings up that crap about how "the same group" screwed up Latin America since independence is either a conspiracy nut or a complete idiot; usually both.
Evidence or shut up.
I might as well claim that you are paid for by PSUV to post this sort of crap on internet forums. In fact that is more likely than Carpriles being paid by the CIA, given the fact that some South American left-leaning governments are known for paying people to praise them and bash their opponents on the internet.
Formaldehyde
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Like what?Like you, for instance!
You certainly do enjoy posting absurd strawmen of others' actual opinions.
ReindeerThistle
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Read it and weep, luiz
I never said Capriles was paid by the CIA. I said "in spite of the opposition being overtly supported by the US, the NED and millions of dollars of money and CIA expertise, that they can't pull off a presidential victory over a Socialist bus driver." US money with CIA expertise. USAID = CIA. Or have you not seen Blood of the Condor?
I, by the way, am a 24/7 UNPAID volunteer. Or do you only cite my posts to attack me, amigo?
Formaldehyde
Both Fair And Balanced
Like many Latin and North Americans, Luiz thinks the only good communist is a dead communist. That virtually anything is justified in this fight to end evil socialism.
The election was too close to be anything but a victory for the opposition. Even though they "lost" the numbers show that Chavez' revolution definitely hinged upon the man himself, and not his ideology.
The results also show Venezuela is split enough to be destabilized and carved up by the corporate interests that feel they are entitled to the petro-reserves of Venezuela.
Massive misery ahead for the Venezuelan people. Misery beyond anything Chavez ever brought them.
Massive misery ahead for mobboss too. He's not going to be a soldier anymore, just another worthless civilian lawyer wannabe. Maybe he will get a job with an ambulance chaser.
The results also show Venezuela is split enough to be destabilized and carved up by the corporate interests that feel they are entitled to the petro-reserves of Venezuela.
Massive misery ahead for the Venezuelan people. Misery beyond anything Chavez ever brought them.
Massive misery ahead for mobboss too. He's not going to be a soldier anymore, just another worthless civilian lawyer wannabe. Maybe he will get a job with an ambulance chaser.
AHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Your source is called the Chavez Code!
Dear God! You might as well quote the Flat Earth Society to prove that people claiming the world is round are actually paid by the CIA.
How is USAID funding the Venezuelan opposition in their political efforts, exactly? Answer: they aren't.
Not really. I am not the one endorsing a candidate who run a campaign based on homophobia and anti-semitism. I am not the one endorsing a candidate that calls opposition voters traitors, and curses them.
Maduro is a perfect fascist, and that makes you a fascist apologist.
AHHHHHHH MADURO IS THE NEXT HITLER!!!!!!!!!!11111111111!!! His mustache is mere centimeters away from HITLERS!!!!!11!
WAKE UP PEOPLE!
Mobboss is the stupidest poster here! ban him and never speak of his name again!
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Like what?
You certainly do enjoy posting absurd strawmen of others' actual opinions.
Like people that are homophobic despite harboring gay feelings themselves, you complain of people living in the cold war, while continually drawing false analogies to the cold war yourself.
Neomega said:
...and give free jelly frogs to Venezuelans.
ReindeerThistle
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Golinger's sources are your beloved US government. If you need help with the English in the article, use Babelfish.
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