NiNES: A Broken Galaxy

OOC: You may assume that you have assumed incorrectly terrisH. I believe disenfrancised said "All rights not stated are reserved." Though I do apologize and you can consider my IC statement on the trading NDA tech matter withdrawn if all the techs you've been trading around has not come from another faction. :)

@MadDog, I believe if you consult your star map that Niklas sent you there should be a colored arrow leading towards the direction of the northeast of your I believe northern most presence. The colored arrow denotes contact.
 
OOC: You may assume that you have assumed incorrectly terrisH. I believe disenfrancised said "All rights not stated are reserved." Though I do apologize and you can consider my IC statement on the trading NDA tech matter withdrawn if all the techs you've been trading around has not come from another faction. :)

OOC: currently, the only two factions that have put NDA's on all their tech trades Are NAM, and the UCS. that are the only two that have stated such. if you do not openly state such a policy, or directly tell me during the deal, I WILL assume that no NDA applies to any tech to Trade or Sell to me. if you do not wish me to do so, Please do so before the end of this turn. or I will Sell Biomatirials to anyone I can next turn. Everyone dose not think the same way you do Alex. you are assuming the NDA's are implied. I don't. Disenfranchied dose not, since he stated that. Symphony D. dose not, since he also openly declared NDA's on his technology also. that is 3-1 for far in NDA's not being Assumed. anyone else care to Vote on this, or correct my vote in this matter, in the case of Disenfranchied and Symphony D. ?
 
OOC: Perhaps Symphony and Disenfrancised announced that because they don't believe in the goodness of people to respect their rights, such as yourself. ;) Thus in order to defend their rights, they choose to announce NDAs over their property to make sure people like you don't get away with it. :p

Though for the record, be my guest in selling Biomaterials. And really, dose is spelled does and does it really kill to use spell check?

IC:

The Ascendancy announces NDAs over all her military orientated techs that they have researched and traded/sold to other parties. Thank you.
 
OOC:

@ Alex944

Ah, I wrongly interpreted Niklas meaning of contact. My protocols do not allow my ships to indirectly communicate with outsiders. Communicating via warpgate is not permitted.

I apologize for the confusion. You're calling me but I can't respond at the present time.

~~~

Given tech trading is so prevalent amongst the players of this game, I will state now with certainty that there will be no tech trading between the Wrath and anybody else.

Spoiler :
Unless you renouce the Heresy of the Scourge, submitting yourself to the divine truth and the one path to redemption...
 
OOC: I understand. Of course, I can OOC wise assure you my ship won't be going anywhere ;)
 
To: Fury
From: DAH

We repeat, why did you renege on your agreement with us?

To: Wrath
From: DAH

Why do you want us to advance no further? We will keep completely out of your way.
 
To DAH
From Fury

We could have sworn we accepted it. Must have forgotten to put it in my PM... :confused: Well if you are willing to carry the same deal for this turn, I will put it down now on my legal pad and place it on my computer for orders, and let my secretary remind me every now and then :lol:
 
[holograph of Governancy Residence]
"And now, for the first time in holographic detail, we bring you the results of the Third Presidential Election!"

[departing Nicholas Churchill stepping out from door]
"By the power vested in me by these my people of Benalia, Chara and Alpha Centauri," Churchill says slowly and formally, "I do formally end my service as I announce my successor, having been chosen by the will of the people and their elected representatives, to be President John Bellmere."

[John Bellmere leads the assembled Governancy out of the door of the Governancy Residence. Newscaster: "One month ago, Bellmere bought back half the stock of Bellmere Industries and distributed that to the Emergents as a whole."]
"I am very grateful for this. I have been chosen to lead the Emergents into the future, and I will ensure that it is a safe, productive one. I vow to fight poverty and secrecy. I will continue the tradition of making government activities official."

[view of mining facilities in asteroid belt. Sound of newscaster. Gradual zoom to mining tool marked BI for Bellmere Industries.]
"Churchill, Bellmere has been criticised by many of the same factions which supported you in the dispute with the then-governmental Shuurai Heavy Industries. Can you comment on why the Governancy made this choice?"
"To sum up - we played to our strengths. We Emergents are more productive than any other known faction. The Governancy felt that John Bellmere would cement this position. Of the other candidates, Macheas retains his position in the Governancy, meaning he will still have influence, increased by his seniority. Nille's tax reform virtually guarantees her another term, and I shouldn't have to talk about Prault, after the ten-thousand-man demonstrations he's organized."
[Prault leading thousands of activists, seen from too far to see their signs. Newscaster: "Prault has twice changed the likely outcome of a Governancy vote despite having no formal standing."]

[Back to Governancy Residence, where John Bellmere is swearing the secular version of the Presidental Oath of Office]
"...to uphold our constitution and to protect our people, to take criticism when it is deserved, and to speak when I am confounded, but never to lose sight of our ideals. So do I solemnly swear."

[Storm of applause from assembled viewers. Gradually back to John Bellmere.]
"Thank you. Thank you. Now for a few statements of position on the issues I have most frequently been questioned on..."
"...the Governancy has already declared its near-unanimous intention on this, and there is not much I can say otherwise: Yes, we will be reclaiming about several systems in the next few years, possibly as many as five."

"I will, of course, attempt to respect the demands of other factions, but I hope to undercut them. Historically, Bellmere R&D has been the most effective when divided into several groups which share any helpful developments, and I see no reason why the same should not apply to factions. If necessary, we will perform clean-room implementations of technological redevelopments, relying only on pre-Scourge data."*

"The Furians have been extremely willing to aid us, even offering to send ships halfway across the galaxy, and so I affirm that they will remain our allies."

"Sol must remain neutral. Anything else would be an insult to historical dignity."

"We saw with Necro-surfing that some developments have certainly been negative. A draft for a fork law is already underway, and we will make sure the ESIPA can investigate the Cyberlands."

"The ESIPA's foreign operations are likely to be reduced to a minimum, but I cannot promise anything. This is far too sensitive a matter."

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*The GTE is left to whoever wants to run it. The Emergents will contribute technology if asked to participate. Meanwhile, independent research, free trade, and gifting will likely be more beneficial and less subject to intervention.
 
OOC: With regard to the continuing discussion between TerrisH and alex, I simply say that NDAs are not implied for these reasons:

CIVILIZATION III > Civ3 - Stories & Tales > Civ3 - Never Ending Stories >
And:
Spoiler :
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You must state them.
 
...did you just use a Civilization example to prove your point? I (and perhaps we) were going by real life interactions between people and organisations, where contract law is very important.
 
To NAM

it has become apparent that we have unintentionally slighted you. we are forwarding the technology of "Heavy Plating" in an attempt to partaily rectify this, and "orbital Facilities" is no longer a tech we will trade. if you wish for further repayment, please contact the Emergents.
 
OOC: I suggest we respectfully disagree on that general point. Or on that specific point, "important" is not the same as "implied". Now let's drop it.

IC:
"Expected margin of variance... 20% !? That's ridiculous. Extensions to 20% might be acceptable, but the baseline should not be over 5% ." John Bellmere was reading through some of the more privileged reports of the Providential government, and he was not happy. "Secretary. Sorry. Your name was Val, right?"
"Yes, sir."
"Right. Val, do I have free time tomorrow? What's on my schedule?"
"No, sir. You have a meeting with the War Council, which you've mentioned disbanding, followed by a session of the Governancy for several hours, then a hearing on possible conflicts of interest. If you want to cancel something, I suggest you cut short the Governancy session the day after tomorrow or arrive late."
"I'll arrive late. Right. Call in the ESIPA leader for me then. Send him an annoyed note telling him I want to know what his department is producing with its espionage activities. Cracking down on Necro-surfing is all well and good, but the foreign operations seem to be mostly money sinks."
"Yes, sir. I'll send you a note on it."
"Thank you. Val." John Bellmere pushed aside the report and opened the next. "Hmm. Reports on the spread of holographic simulation technology."
...
"Mm-hm. Hmm. Right. All good. Val, take a note to get the military some tanks, will you? Okay, next report is on the Magistracy, Capella... grumble mumble why does the Church have such a great role? Right, the majority are listed as adherents and about one-quarter are active members. Hmm. I'll have to bypass the Church somehow. Capella has some valuable technology that we want. Genetic modifications would be excellent for putting on adaptions to unstan mining. Seems funny that the Nekomi haven't got it. Must be one of those cases where they've preserved a tradition and not the technique itself. Val! Take a note on that, or is there a bill before the Governancy already?"
"No, sir. Your - predecessor was more closely aligned with the Church, and wished to sanction the Magistracy. The Governancy members were unaligned then as now."
"Right. Thanks. Dig up what authority I have to fast-track trade negotiations, will you?"
"Yes. Long story short, you have to present it to the Governancy and make sure it doesn't get vetoed, then you need a signing approval. You'll have the full document in half an hour, with notes, sir. Is that acceptable?"
"Excellent. Now, hmm, proposal from the Nekomi, I had better forward it..."
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"Val, how do I get the holoconference ware working? Is it even working?"
Valin came over and looked at the holoconference equipment. It was not plugged in. Valin stated this fact, then helped his superior to correctly position the couch chair, the recorders, and the tableau, before activating the equipment and then double-checking that it worked before helping John Bellmere to input the contact address for a researcher on genetic modifications.

"Ole Mulini, Professor of Applied Biotechnology, at your service, President." A one-third scale hologram, looking almost as real as the professor himself, only smaller, had appeared on the tableau in front of Bellmere. Both of them were sitting in comfortable mini-sofas.
"Let's dispense with the formalities, 'professor'. You got my message?"
"Indeed I did, if you refer to the Nekomi proposal of an augmentation center."
"That's the one. Seeing as Alpha Centauri is moderately hostile, I think an augmentation center might be useful. It would also build relations with the Nekomi. Now, how much funding would you require to set up a small-scale augmentation center?"
Ole Mulini named an amount. John Bellmere approved it.
"And how productive would this be?"
"After the first week after set-up, fifty people a day."
"Good. Let the Nekomi offer their modifications there too, privately. We already have a flourishing trade with them." He neglected to mention that the recent USC conquest of Sol might interrupt this.
"Let It Hence Be Done! Sorry, sir. Inside joke."
"Send me the reference some time. Thank you for your time. Val, tell me if that guy is worth basing-"
"President, you haven't ended the connection." snickered Mulini, and did so.
Bellmere grimaced and left the chair. "Val, is he still listening?"
"I don't think so. Here's how you turn it off, by the way."
"Thanks." Bellmere turned it off properly.
 
to NAM:
would you care to Trade "Drone workforce" for "Rail guns" and "Guided missiles" ?

To Cybran Dominion
due to a situation we just became aware of, the Offer of orbital facilities is hearby retracted.
 
To NAM

it has become apparent that we have unintentionally slighted you. we are forwarding the technology of "Heavy Plating" in an attempt to partaily rectify this, and "orbital Facilities" is no longer a tech we will trade. if you wish for further repayment, please contact the Emergents.

Thats quite alright and we thank you for your kind offer of recommence and willingness not to break an NDA that you lacked knowledge of perviously. We are a non-agressive faction and we must decline your offer of weapons technology. However if you have other technology or cash we are willing to exchange that for Drone workforce, and are willing to part with it quite cheaply indeed provided our NDAs are respected.
 
To: Nekomi
From: The Cybran Dominion


Understood. I assume the other deals are are still on?

OOC: Flurry of PMs sent. Please reply to Thursday.
 
Despite the possible political benefits of saying otherwise, I feel obligated to point out:

It will be possible to trade techs between factions. You can trade for as many techs as you like, and when you've traded for a tech from one neighbor you can immediately turn around and trade it away to another. You can trade for any techs that you know the prerequisites for, even those whose prerequisites you just traded for. Also if you trade for a tech, you can start researching a follow-up tech on the same turn. All benefits of traded techs will be effective after the update (if you only remember to include the deals in your orders!).

I vote not implied

/rules bickering for my part
 
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