No good comes of calling the cops

[Borachio]

Gallowglass?

Well, no. Gallowglasses were just celtic mercenaries, I thought. I'm not quite sure what they have to do with an independent Police State.

 

[Formaldehyde]

To me, this was misleading and depending on where exactly one lives, inaccurate. Systemic racism is fundamentally irrational, but it is also irrational in how it is non-uniform. I felt the quoted part implied a bit more uniformity in the systemic issue than exists in practice.

With the ideal being to remove systemic racism, I find statements like that to harm the argumentative construct. I realize I do that myself sometimes, though I delete that kind of stuff when I catch myself.

I never claimed it was "uniform". Now did I?

What I find " harm the argumentative construct" are statements such as these. I think you are trying to read far too much into my statements to find some sort of hidden meaning that isn't there.

But as soon as enough statistics of Hispanics having their hands in towels and being shot in the head for no valid reason by paranoid cops are made public, perhaps I'll change my mind.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

I never claimed it was "uniform". Now did I?

What I find " harm the argumentative construct" are statements such as these. I think you are trying to read far too much into my statements to find some sort of hidden meaning that isn't there.

But as soon as enough statistics of Hispanics having their hands in towels and being shot in the head for no valid reason by paranoid cops are made public, perhaps I'll change my mind.

There are no statistics about anyone shot by cops...Hispanics with dangerous towels or otherwise. Cops and their apologists refuse to have the data required to produce such stats gathered for some mysterious reason.

 

[civvver]

bad boys bad boys, watcha gonna do? watcha gonna do when they come for you, and your towels?

Anyway, never moving to LA now. Cops in my town are nice. They installed my child car seats twice for me, I just showed up at the public safety desk and was like hey, can you help me figure out these straps? Nice guy. Then we had a conversation about local neighborhoods and which schools are the best ones.

Another time my neighbors backed into my car parked in the street in the middle of the night. Basketball sized dent, but all cosmetic. Not really a big deal but I wanted to scare them into not ever doing it again so I called the police so they could see the car pull up in front of their house and know someone was watching them. Nice guy too.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

bad boys bad boys, watcha gonna do? watcha gonna do when they come for you, and your towels?

Anyway, never moving to LA now. Cops in my town are nice. They installed my child car seats twice for me, I just showed up at the public safety desk and was like hey, can you help me figure out these straps? Nice guy. Then we had a conversation about local neighborhoods and which schools are the best ones.

Another time my neighbors backed into my car parked in the street in the middle of the night. Basketball sized dent, but all cosmetic. Not really a big deal but I wanted to scare them into not ever doing it again so I called the police so they could see the car pull up in front of their house and know someone was watching them. Nice guy too.

I like to let my neighbors know "someone is watching them" too, but I find kicking their front door in while wielding a sixteen inch butcher knife to be more on point.

For those who fail to recognize that intimidating the neighbors is intimidating the neighbors no matter what your weapon of preference, consider this just an example.

 

[warpus]

I've never ever called the cops, but I happen to be white and quite easily pass as a WASP. I've learned how to deal with cops, so for the most part, when I come in contact with them, things tend to go well.

A couple days ago I did call the city's parking authority though - a neighbour was throwing some sort of a party, and the people who arrived parked on both sides of the street.. one was parked right in front of my house. That's a big no no. It's dangerous. It annoyed me that they're so careless and lazy, so now they all have $100+ tickets to pay. I don't feel bad about it one bit.

 

[JollyRoger]

Wrong thread

 

[civvver]

I like to let my neighbors know "someone is watching them" too, but I find kicking their front door in while wielding a sixteen inch butcher knife to be more on point.

For those who fail to recognize that intimidating the neighbors is intimidating the neighbors no matter what your weapon of preference, consider this just an example.

One method is perfectly legal and how shall I put it, sane? while the other makes you look nuts and possibly get the cops called on you. It's perfectly acceptable to file a police report when your car has been damage for insurance purposes.

 

[Zelig]

I like to let my neighbors know "someone is watching them" too, but I find kicking their front door in while wielding a sixteen inch butcher knife to be more on point.

For those who fail to recognize that intimidating the neighbors is intimidating the neighbors no matter what your weapon of preference, consider this just an example.

I usually just intimidate them by having my dog poop on their lawn.

 

[TheMeInTeam]

I never claimed it was "uniform". Now did I?

What I find " harm the argumentative construct" are statements such as these. I think you are trying to read far too much into my statements to find some sort of hidden meaning that isn't there.

But as soon as enough statistics of Hispanics having their hands in towels and being shot in the head for no valid reason by paranoid cops are made public, perhaps I'll change my mind.

I said what I quoted carried implications of "more uniformity than exists", not that you implied uniformity outright. Thus far, neither of us have presented substantive statistics to back our perception, so call it a simple/meaningless disagreement. It wouldn't take much evidence to change my mind in this case.

As Tim says, organizations tend to have a pretty forgetful mind when it comes to evidence that works against themselves, or against people that serve their interests. Despite that, the difference in treatment in Florida, Texas, Maine, and South Dakota is going to be different...the first two so much that even within the respective states you'll see very different behavior with regards to community norms and police action.

 

[Narz]

Somewhat off topic but made me think of this thread : http://anonhq.com/drunk-driver-runs-kills-cyclist-gets-no-jail-time-shes-cops-wife/

 

[Narz]

More fun regarding cops from the Bicyclist group I'm on on FB : http://www.inquisitr.com/1754850/dr...gainst-victims-families-for-emotional-trauma/

 

[Formaldehyde]

Canada has an 80 mph speed limit? In places frequented by bicyclists?

EDIT: It was reported incorrectly by the US media source. It is actually 80 kph.

After reading the real article from a newsworthy source, the kids were rather stupid. They claimed they were going to get hot dogs at 1 AM while riding 3 abreast on a country road with a 48 mph speed limit.

Even so, the woman should have been able to see them and at least make an evasive maneuver. Instead, she apparently plowed right into them while claiming she never saw them.

And nobody leaves a bar at 1 AM after having just one drink...

 

[Formaldehyde]

A drunk FBI agent drove the wrong way on I-95 in Ft Lauderdale and killed 2 people after drinking copious amounts of beer with his supervisor. Not only did the FHP fail to give him a breathalyzer or have blood drawn, or even subject him to a DUI test, they even claimed the people he killed were the ones driving the wrong way!

A month later under extremely heavy pressure, the FHP agreed he had been drunk and was driving the wrong direction instead of the other car.

But armed with that glaring contradiction and lack of evidence regarding how drunk he was, his attorney got him off with a 90-day sentence. He was acquitted of the felony charges which would have put him behind bars for 15 years or so, because the jury claimed they just couldn't figure out from the intentionally incompetent forensics investigation which car had been going the wrong way!

 

[Timsup2nothin]

I'm having a Jeff Foxworthy moment!

If there is insufficient forensic evidence to determine which way your car was going when you killed people with it, you might be a cop!

If the guy you shot in justifiable self defense was armed with a towel, you might be a cop!

If the guy you shot in justifiable self defense was armed with a car door that you gave them, you might be a cop!

If someone yells out their car window at you because you are violating the vehicle code and they get a ticket, you might be a cop!

If you rear end someone in your own car on the way home from work and the accident is ruled to be clearly their fault, you might be a cop!

If you shoot someone dead and no one questions your story that their hand was "dangerously close to their waist", you might be a cop!

If you shoot someone dead for "pulling a gun on you" and no one asks why they would do that when they had no bullets, you might be a cop!

I might have my long sought comedy trademark here...

 

[Formaldehyde]

A large part of the blame rests squarely on the jury though. They knew exactly where he drank the beer and where the accident occurred. So they certainly should have been able to figure out he was driving on the wrong side of the interstate.

 

[Farm Boy]

And nobody leaves a bar at 1 AM after having just one drink...

I started doing that sort of thing after I realized the kid doesn't care how many I had last night, he wants to get up and play. Also, perpetual DD. It' easier that way.

 

[Zelig]

And nobody leaves a bar at 1 AM after having just one drink...

I do this fairly frequently.

 

[TheMeInTeam]

I started doing that sort of thing after I realized the kid doesn't care how many I had last night, he wants to get up and play. Also, perpetual DD. It' easier that way.

Reminds me of the time I attempted to honor a promise to work out with my roommate the next day after having "a few more than one". I ran to the gym (about 1 mile so easy) just fine, got through 3-4 lifts, and then spent the next 50 minutes on the seated row machine with my hands on my forehead because of the pounding headache.

I was still young back then, so after I recovered I finished the workout, but it left a lasting impression about the realities of attempting such things .

 

[Farm Boy]

Heheh, yea. Sipping gatoraide and watching Animal Planet while hungover is a mostly acceptable price to pay for a hairy night out. Being worthless for most of the next day has become somewhat less plausible. Even one-more-turn binges get pretty rough.