NotW LVII - Tempus Fugit (game thread)

How would they claim in private, again?
 
But yeah... I was probably the mafia NK deflected by jailkeeper type role.

I'm hoping that's the case anyway.

But that means I was at minimum, nightkilled by mafia (or vig), scanned by someone, and protected and blocked by someone else, or two someone elses.
 
Askthepizzaguy said:
That's bad because if one of us dies and flips scum you go after the others in rapid succession.

It's like wolves claiming masons. It might have worked once. But it was still really dumb and should happen approximately never.
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It's only dumb if you think there's a good chance of you or Cuth dying. Sometimes the dumbest things work the best because noone expects it.
 
Cuthillius said:
If a vig did target ATPG, they should claim to someone they can count on being town.

Otherwise we could end up locking Pizza town the whole game if he's not.
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No, there's no danger of this. I guarantee it.

Vig stay silent always.

I'll be able to use my ability on enough people this game if I'm not nightkilled that all that will end up happening is the pool of people who think/know I'm villager will continue to increase. Vig claiming here causes him to become blocked, because even if the village has a protect/blocker, scum definitely have one. Or a bus driver.
 
Takhisis said:
Or there was a bus driver… how did/will you get pushed into the temporal vortex?
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I ended up here, in this morning, meaning day 2 although it doesn't say that explicitly it is implied.

I am thinking it's not unreasonable to assume the vortex's starting point was start of night one and the end point was start of day two.

If it's something more bizarre than that, I can imagine how it might be done but I doubt that it is the case here. Occam's razor says it's just a dressed-up jailkeeper power with fancy colors.
 
Also, why are we assuming a vig made one of the kills? In a game with this many powers, I wouldn't be too surprised if scum has at least limited double night kills.
 
Newyn said:
Also, why are we assuming a vig? In a game with this many powers, I wouldn't be too surprised if scum has at least limited double night kills.
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Because that's the only universe in which Pizza is not lock town.
 
If I somehow draw a day roleblock then that means the scum day roleblocker is occupado on someone who will likely only be able to prove themselves innocent with their power, and otherwise only has a shot in the dark of truly making town super powerful. I think the info that I was "visibly" blocked is more useful data than dying with such data un-revealed.

And my whereabouts being at Duff's location by day and nowhere by night is also useful to town's solve.
 
And Pizza shouldn't be locked town because…? (It'd be good to have any lock townies other than myself)

btw I'll be watching inuYasha and will be back in half an hour.
 
It's less of an assumption, more that if a vig did that NK they better let us know before they die or else.

Because unless we have any reason to the contrary Pizza's lock town, and if he's actually scum we have to know.

Might be worth setting up some sort of seer covery thing, like

If I was the vig, I did shoot ATPG

But that would only work if everyone actually did it.
 
Takhisis said:
My reads:
askthepizzaguy: hmmmm -votes for me, changes at Zacks' first suggestion - strange, too feeble of him.
Zack: silliest read in quite a while ??????
(the above two are voting for the only person I can prove is a townie, i.e. me)
Lassie: coöperative so far, but what've you been up to?
Newyn: shameless bandwaggonner
Jarema: good point by Lassie
Cuth: please explain more, if possible
everyone else: where are you?
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When have you ever given a reads list? Feeling the pressure?
 
Cuthillius said:
It's less of an assumption, more that if a vig did that NK they better let us know before they die or else.

Because unless we have any reason to the contrary Pizza's lock town, and if he's actually scum we have to know.

Might be worth setting up some sort of seer covery thing, like

If I was the vig, I did shoot ATPG

But that would only work if everyone actually did it.
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My initial thought is that such a thing doesn't work, because we know when people are lying "If I was the vig, I shot Zack last night" when Zack wasn't the target of a known NK attempt means they're not the seer. But what you're saying is possible if about half the people in the game said Bsmith was the vig target and the other half said me. Then when the vigilante dies, it does tell us who the real targets were and thus, clears everyone who survived a NK attempt that was stopped somehow.

However, like seer cover, (a) not enough people will do it and (b) enough people will be wrong that it narrows down who the vig actually is to the scums, but not the villagers.

I don't think the possible rewards are worth it but I am persuadable.

I'm not going to bother participating because I hard claimed not vig by now with my other semi-claim.
 
Actually since it's a bad idea for town roles like a seer or watcher to participate and guess correctly, since it improves their odds of being murdered, participating in such a stunt would help mafia decide who was not a valuable enough role to bother murdering off first.

As such, yeah I have to advocate against that idea. It gives the mafia more viable info than it does for the town. And the mafia would want any and all data on a vigilante so let's give them as close to zero as possible.
 
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