NOTW XXXIX: Impending Retribution Game Thread

[CCRunner]

Attention: I would like to request the person with the nuclear reactor control override codes contact me immediately.

 

[rhawn]

Is someone getting jealous? As to the items, they've been handed off to people who can use them.

I haven't requested the crate nor have I inquired what they contain. I'm just not comfortable with it going to the same person every day.

 

[Autolycus]

There does seem to be good reason to suspect Darth Caesar, but let's not have a bandwagon yet. Captain Methos, while it seems that you have engaged in fair distribution of the items, I'd like it if someone would confirm that they have received an item from you. I, Autolycus will renew my plea for the Navigation Override Card. Rhawn, why do you want the reactor override codes? The reactor seems to be doing just fine.

 

[rhawn]

That was ccrunner not me.

 

[Frozen In Ice]

CCRunner why do you need the reactor override? As far as I'm aware you would have no use for them.

Also, is the only evidence we have against Darth Caesar that there was less kills while he was in the brig, or do we have something more concrete? Renata can have the crate.

 

[Nictel]

"Uhmm Captain are you sure it is wise to leave the two commander positions empty?"

 

[Renata]

Maybe ya didn't notice that Methos' commanders keep gettin' killed out from under 'im. Diamondeye, God Emperor, now Winston Hughes.

 

[Seon]

Yeah.

I call NOT being a commander.

 

[Earthling]

robbiecon seems a good choice for both of those items. I don't really want the crate but would distribute typical repair/supplies items to the same sort of trustworthy folk I'd think.

CCRunner, what you mentioned really needs some following up and explaining. However if anything this further condemns choxorn for being the saboteur/rogue after that in the engine room. I'd like to know if the case on Darth Caesar really is anything better than he was just in the brig too, at the very least he should show up and explain what he does.

 

[choxorn]

Okay, yes, I know, my alibi sucks and the lack of sabotage is suspicious.

Try letting me live for another night and watch the damage level remain the same. Well, actually, I'm still injured, so I still can't use my ability tonight. Let me live for two more nights and watch the damage level on Night 7 be the same as on Nights 4-6, with a possible increase on Night 6 if one or more of the saboteurs has multiple night actions and has been doing something aside from damaging the ship the past 2 nights.

On votes: I can't figure out any pattern at all behind what the gun night-killers are doing. I still suspect Nictel of being the second 3-shot killer, since he was either brigged or repairing something every night but the night that killer killed, but the kills dropping when Darth Caesar was in the brig is also suspicious.

 

[Zack]

Darth Caesar for the execution - note, not the brig, that would be redundant. I have been talking with choxorn in private, and his reasons for being in the Engine Room sounded plausible enough.

As for Caesar, the drop in sabotage is more reason than the drop in kills to execute him. Whoever killed ATPG seems to have been a vigilante, not a rogue (the method of killing was different, and ATPG is listed as "killed" as opposed to "murdered" on the front page). I suspect Darth is a saboteur.

 

[Duke Blackstone]

I do know of a rank Vig kill. However I didn't think he had used his ability last night

 

[classical_hero]

Is someone getting jealous? As to the items, they've been handed off to people who can use them.

I beg to disagree sir.

 

[Duke Blackstone]

Darth Caesar for the execution - note, not the brig, that would be redundant. I have been talking with choxorn in private, and his reasons for being in the Engine Room sounded plausible enough.

As for Caesar, the drop in sabotage is more reason than the drop in kills to execute him. Whoever killed ATPG seems to have been a vigilante, not a rogue (the method of killing was different, and ATPG is listed as "killed" as opposed to "murdered" on the front page). I suspect Darth is a saboteur.

Logical enough for me. Darth Caesar

 

[Ekolite]

I've heard there is good evidence against Darth Caesar. Perhaps its time we put it to the test?

 

[Earthling]

Darth Caesar for the execution - note, not the brig, that would be redundant. I have been talking with choxorn in private, and his reasons for being in the Engine Room sounded plausible enough.

As for Caesar, the drop in sabotage is more reason than the drop in kills to execute him. Whoever killed ATPG seems to have been a vigilante, not a rogue (the method of killing was different, and ATPG is listed as "killed" as opposed to "murdered" on the front page). I suspect Darth is a saboteur.

It would seem to be not a rogue, I agree, and possibly a saboteur, but if it was a vigilante kill by an Innocent that was an extremely poor decision. This is one of several things it's been disappointing to me that haven't been addressed more, when we know folks out there like rhawn have unaccounted for weaponry. However for this all to add up, you'd have to suggest that Darth Caesar was both the extra killer and a saboteur at that, the amount of actual sabotage didn't really change from Night Five and neither did the rogue kills.

I'm going to change my vote to CCRunner though, something about that whole situation does not add up and the pressure seems better with him than choxorn. And if there is evidence against Darth Caesar we ought to hear it, him being in the brig is not great evidence especially when we basically repeated the same amount of trouble from night five. But wasting a vote on an inactive, Innocent crewman if he is such with an early bandwagon could have other motivations.

Now as for choxorn again, he certainly has talked to a lot of people apparently, but if he's claiming the same thing to everyone and I assume so, it really doesn't go a long ways. It's possible but no guarantee at all he's been truthful. And if choxorn's not guilty then CCRunner would almost have to be by simple deduction, there's no way we'd get a coincidence of several parties each trying to mess with or "protect" the ship's reactor or whatever the aim with that is and choxorn just happening to wander around the ship, in the Engine Room, because he can.

 

[CCRunner]

Now as for choxorn again, he certainly has talked to a lot of people apparently, but if he's claiming the same thing to everyone and I assume so, it really doesn't go a long ways. It's possible but no guarantee at all he's been truthful. And if choxorn's not guilty then CCRunner would almost have to be by simple deduction, there's no way we'd get a coincidence of several parties each trying to mess with or "protect" the ship's reactor or whatever the aim with that is and choxorn just happening to wander around the ship, in the Engine Room, because he can.

Wait, what? I think I missed how choxorn being innocent makes me guilty 'by simple deduction'... cause all I did was ask for an item, which multiple people already know the reason for... I think you should try to figure out why I did that, instead of immediately threatening me, in thread and via PM, and leaping to erroneous conclusions. If anybody requires an explanation about why I need the codes, feel free to PM me and i'll be much more likely to answer.

 

[Earthling]

What I've heard and that's not been contradicted by what you've said, is that you've been looking for at least two items, these Nuclear Codes and another item to enable you to use them, and then you'd be able to (plan to?) do something to the reactor.

I don't care if Renata thought it was best to protect your identity and keep it secret nor why, but this screams traitorous intentions. Especially as one of the former items has been stolen and I need it back for my job. And the reactor's working fine and we'd rather not fall into an obvious rogue or saboteur trap, if there was any concern it would just be better to just keep the Engine Room locked and have nobody go near entirely.

It's also quite clear that choxorn stumbled into a trap that was set up to protect the reactor, I shouldn't be at liberty to say more about who exactly did this, except people should continue to not go where they shouldn't. The next person (rogue or saboteur, so if you're Innocent don't try to do something foolish) who sets off a similar claymore trap should also be executed.

So either choxorn is the saboteur after the reactor and we've already caught him, or your story, CCRunner, is full of holes. I shouldn't be at liberty to say more on that.

 

[Earthling]

Argh some grammar or scansion mistakes there but I'll let it be. I will say, CCRunner, you ought to come clean with what I asked you, in private is fine. If you, personally, are not after MULTIPLE items or confused about what I was talking about, only this single one, then some other people need to come forward or offer explanations on who's after other stuff. Because we really can't have rogues all over the place looking for multiple dangerous items to use them together and go uncontested.

 

[CCRunner]

What I've heard and that's not been contradicted by what you've said, is that you've been looking for at least two items, these Nuclear Codes and another item to enable you to use them, and then you'd be able to (plan to?) do something to the reactor.

Hardly the first time anybody's needed two items to do something extremely useful.

I don't care if Renata thought it was best to protect your identity and keep it secret nor why, but this screams traitorous intentions. Especially as one of the former items has been stolen and I need it back for my job.

Seems like everything started out stolen... if you haven't noticed, Ekolite's been complaining about the rifles for some time now, just saying that it was stolen doesn't mean you can make the best use of it.

It's also quite clear that choxorn stumbled into a trap that was set up to protect the reactor, I shouldn't be at liberty to say more about who exactly did this, except people should continue to not go where they shouldn't. The next person (rogue or saboteur, so if you're Innocent don't try to do something foolish) who sets off a similar claymore trap should also be executed.

And I'm not sure if you noticed, but more people than just you need access to the ship, walking around trying to repair something (not saying that's what he was doing) and getting hit by a claymore is hardly a lynchable offense. Especially when the area the claymore is placed in is still in need of repair

So either choxorn is the saboteur after the reactor and we've already caught him, or your story, CCRunner, is full of holes. I shouldn't be at liberty to say more on that.

To be honest, based on our secret talks, your accusation mostly seems to be 'give me your item or die'. Yeah, maybe try a slightly more reasonable/less overtly threatening approach and you might get somewhere faster