Japanrocks12
tired of being a man
Should I go with the "NPR is a corporation, it can fire anyone it wants, deal with it" argument today?
NPR fires Juan Williams.
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useless
Social Justice Rogue
Neither is tolerable.
For those unsure of what the "Muslim garb" is http://muslimswearingthings.tumblr.com/page/1
What difference does that make?
Remember, prejudiced, not bigoted.
This just gives NPR, liberals, and Muslims a bad name.
Well now we're back to the question of why the other people I mentioned still have a job if saying crazy stuff is enough to violate journalistic ethics and get yourself fired?For being the only fair and non-partisan news source in the US?
I am curious though if people realize that Juan was actually arguing against painting Muslims with a broad brush if you listen to what he said afterward.
Then we go back to the man having a pattern of violating the rules of his employer. They let him skate more than once.
They were clearly waived those years ago given the fact he's been doing that for years and we've got the other people listed.
1) Can you make a legal argument justifying his firing given that after years of going on pundit shows, he suddenly fired for going on a pundit show? That part of his contract clearly seems to have been waived due to non-action on the employers part.That makes no sense whatsoever.
2) If the firing is for what he said, can you make a legal argument justifying his firing given the examples listed earlier in this thread of conduct tolerated by NPR?
classical_hero
In whom I trust
I'm sorry but if a certain group of peoples is known to causing trouble, then it would be only natural to be wary of them.
MobBoss
Off-Topic Overlord
At what point does intolerance itself become intolerable?
Seriously, being hyper-sensitive about such things isnt doing us any good.
For being the only fair and non-partisan news source in the US?
Well, thats the point. Its not perceived that way....at all.
Cutlass, if it swung the other way, and the common perception was that it showed a conservative bias, you would be all over cutting its funding. We both know it too.
Mr. Dictator
A Chain-Smoking Fox
Except they don't have a hive mind.
Every Australian who's moved to TN that I've met has been a pothead. Should I think you're a pothead?
useless
Social Justice Rogue
You best becareful around germans though! Y'know, since the war and all that, since all Germans are the same, just like the muslims!
useless
Social Justice Rogue
How is it hyper-senstitive to criticise a man who just said that he is scared of Muslims because of their qualities? You seem to live in a world in which homophobia, racism and other forms of prejudice can just be swept away and the response to them is somehow "over-sensitive".
Intolerance of: Race, Religion, Gender, Sexual preference etc should not be tolerated. But I have a feeling you'll just dismiss me as an "uppity liberal".
MobBoss
Off-Topic Overlord
He wasnt scared of them because of their 'qualities'....he is concerned about them because of the instances of radical muslim terrorism the world over.
Slight difference there.
'Concern' is pretty low level. He didnt say he got off the plane, cowered in fear, etc. of the fact.....he said it made the thought go through his head.
Seriously, are we going the route of having 'thought police' here?
Thank you for using 'sexual preference'. I knew I could win you over.
Not uppity. But I do think your over-reacting on something as low level as this.
useless
Social Justice Rogue
He was scared because he believed that Muslims were more "prone" to terrorist acts. But if that is a justification of his actions, why did he fail to state his worry over Basque and Irish people or people of either descent? And "wide over" is such a disengenious comment, Islamic terrorism as far as I know, mostly affects Asia, Africa (and even then in only certain parts) and most recently a couple of instances in northern America and Europe. Hardly "World Wide".
And sexual preference, I fail to see how you've won me over, but I guess when you are that desperate you must react like a child, pathetically trying to gain points to buff up your already massive ego. I don't think you've actually ever won anyone over in regards to your views on homosexuality, but more pushed people away. And Sexual "preference" does not imply choice, it merely implies the gender that a person likes which isn't actually a conscious decision made by people, and does not rule out bisexuality, homosexuality or heterosexuality.
And "thought police" is utter rubbish. Total garbage, you can do so much better. C'mon Son.
Low level? The othering of Muslims in the British, Western and American Media is frankly disgusting, just as your dismissel of it is.
And sexual preference, I fail to see how you've won me over, but I guess when you are that desperate you must react like a child, pathetically trying to gain points to buff up your already massive ego. I don't think you've actually ever won anyone over in regards to your views on homosexuality, but more pushed people away. And Sexual "preference" does not imply choice, it merely implies the gender that a person likes which isn't actually a conscious decision made by people, and does not rule out bisexuality, homosexuality or heterosexuality.
And "thought police" is utter rubbish. Total garbage, you can do so much better. C'mon Son.
Low level? The othering of Muslims in the British, Western and American Media is frankly disgusting, just as your dismissel of it is.
Did you stop listening after his airline remarks?
useless
Social Justice Rogue
He was busy defending the right-wing conservative's pressuring her to get fired and generally reporting mistruths and misinformation.
MobBoss
Off-Topic Overlord
Do you really think 'scared' is an accurate word here? To me, someone scared is going to come out of their seat. I dont think thats what occurred.
What actions? All he did was think it.
How long has it been (if ever) has a basque or irish person blown up a plane or hijacked one?
Are you really unable to reconcile those demographs and how many terrorist acts are committed by those factions in comparison to that done by radical islam? Is it truely that meaningless to you?
Islamic terrorism, to my knowledge, has affected every continent the world over. Dont you think that qualifies it as 'world wide'?
Not reacting like a child, just simply pointing out thats the same term I would have used. Who is getting huffy about me simply pointing that out? Not me.
My pm box disagrees. Although I do think most people around here are going to take more than just you or I to convince them of anything otherwise.
Rofl, it absolutely does. Always has. You seriously going to try and spin that? Good luck with that.
Easy there. We both know I am old enough to be your dad, so no need to be insulting just because your not getting the upper hand in an argument. Have some discipline.
Yes, low level. Like I said, did Williams act on his thought in any physical manner? Demand said muslim be removed from the plane? Asked for another seat? Anything really bigoted?
No. He had a thought. A single thought, that didnt even register enough for him to take any physical action about.
So yeah, in my book, thats pretty harmless.
'Cause she's ugly. Besides, I found her comments more offensive.
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