NPR fires Juan Williams.

[Formaldehyde]

Two wrongs don't make a right bro.

Then it's a good thing that the vast majority of Muslims aren't actually doing that, including Aasif Mandvi. Right?

 

[civver_764]

Then it's a good thing that the vast majority of Muslims aren't actually doing that. Right?

Indeed.

 

[Formaldehyde]

Sometimes it is best to use rhetorical devices and humor to point out the obvious hypocrisy.

 

[MobBoss]

Is it easier to post a question in this forum than it is to google it?

You brought him up, not me. And to answer your question: absolutely. In fact, I would have thought you eager to jump at an opportunity to educate me on something. Guess I was wrong.

 

[BSmith1068]

You brought him up, not me.

The point is that you could have cut and pasted his name into Google to get your answer, instead of asking the question here.

Asking the question here only serves the purpose of delaying the argument further and avoids answering the point he was trying to make.

 

[MobBoss]

The point is that you could have cut and pasted his name into Google to get your answer, instead of asking the question here.

Asking the question here only serves the purpose of delaying the argument further and avoids answering the point he was trying to make.

No, asking the question from someone who knows who it is actually clarifies the context of his comment and gets to the point. Its commonly done when referencing someone that many may not know who they are.

What delays the argument further is telling someone to google it instead of just simply explaining who the person is, and then continuing to whine about not googling it even further.

 

[BSmith1068]

No, asking the question from someone who knows who it is actually clarifies the context of his comment and gets to the point. Its commonly done when referencing someone that many may not know who they are.

What delays the argument further is telling someone to google it instead of just simply explaining who the person is, and then continuing to whine about not googling it even further.

Two wrongs don’t make a right. In no way does your post indicate that you know who he is and that you are just trying to get Forma to acknowledge the source in more detail. Just saying.

And I’d argue that in this case the source of the reference is immaterial to its substance.

 

[Ayatollah So]

What? That the interview was clipped at some sources? It certainly wasn't taken out of context as a result.

Yes it was. He compared Muslim-o-phobia to fear of Christians on account of Timothy McVeigh et. al. His whole "fear of Muslims" thing was leading up to a very big BUT.

Oh, and let me repeat: the place where I learned of this broader context was NPR.

Comparing him to the the railroad job of Shirley Sherrod is patently absurd.

Well yeah, Williams:Sherrod is a molehill:mountain comparison. But a molehill is still a hill.

 

[MobBoss]

Two wrongs don’t make a right.

Rofl, thats assuming that asking who someone is, is indeed a wrong. Protip: its not wrong to ask for such information.

In no way does your post indicate that you know who he is and that you are just trying to get Forma to acknowledge the source in more detail. Just saying.

If I knew who he was, I wouldnt be asking who he was. You are the one making a false assumption about me here.

And again, why is asking for more detail of a source 'wrong'?

And I’d argue that in this case the source of the reference is immaterial to its substance.

Then why mention the guys name at all then?

 

[BSmith1068]

Rofl, thats assuming that asking who someone is, is indeed a wrong. Protip: its not wrong to ask for such information.

What was wrong was not just doing a quick Google search and finding out for yourself. Instead of responding to the substance of the post, you deflected by asking who the source was. It is a typical diversionary tactic that is used all too often on these boards.

If I knew who he was, I wouldnt be asking who he was. You are the one making a false assumption about me here.

And again, why is asking for more detail of a source 'wrong'?

My apologies if I misread in-between the lines there. Your statement about asking to clarify the context led me to believe you were attempting to discredit the quote based on the source.

Then why mention the guys name at all then?

To give proper credit? Either way, the source was not the point of the statement. Everything after it was.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

nevermind.

 

[MobBoss]

What was wrong was not just doing a quick Google search and finding out for yourself.

Let me guess. You have never, ever asked a question in OT that you could have googled yourself. amiright? Be mindful of your answer.....I might just have an example of you doing what I just did handy...

Instead of responding to the substance of the post, you deflected by asking who the source was. It is a typical diversionary tactic that is used all too often on these boards.

Why so paranoid? People ask such questions all the time on these boards and certainly not in the context of being diversionary. The person who has kept whining about it, namely you, have done so now for several posts. Perhaps your hand wringing is the actual diversion here, hmmm?

Again, you make a hugely false assumption there.

My apologies if I misread in-between the lines there. Your statement about asking to clarify the context led me to believe you were attempting to discredit the quote based on the source.

Uh...how does 'Who is X' indicate an attempt to discredit a source?

I mean wow, are you suspecious or what?

To give proper credit? Either way, the source was not the point of the statement. Everything after it was.

So what harm is there is explaining who the guy is? Seriously.

 

[Holycannoli]

How dare people believe what they want to believe.

People can believe what they want, but they better not try to change this country into something like communism if that's what they believe.

Believe it, fine. Act on it in attempts to change the country into it, not fine.

 

[DinoDoc]

Is it easier to post a question in this forum than it is to google it?

You apparently found it easier to ask such stupid questions rather than google someone's name. Why shouldn't someone else?

 

[useless]

People can believe what they want, but they better not try to change this country into something like communism if that's what they believe.

Believe it, fine. Act on it in attempts to change the country into it, not fine.

Who is turning America communist?

 

[Traitorfish]

People can believe what they want, but they better not try to change this country into something like communism if that's what they believe.

Believe it, fine. Act on it in attempts to change the country into it, not fine.

That's not very democratic.

 

[Karalysia]

That's not very democratic.

America, love it or leave it doncha ya know. Apparently "change it" just isn't cricket.

 

[BSmith1068]

Let me guess. You have never, ever asked a question in OT that you could have googled yourself. amiright? Be mindful of your answer.....I might just have an example of you doing what I just did handy...

Call.

Why so paranoid? People ask such questions all the time on these boards and certainly not in the context of being diversionary. The person who has kept whining about it, namely you, have done so now for several posts. Perhaps your hand wringing is the actual diversion here, hmmm?

Again, you make a hugely false assumption there.

Let’s just say there is a track record here…

Uh...how does 'Who is X' indicate an attempt to discredit a source?

I mean wow, are you suspecious or what?

Classy Mobby. I apologize for misreading your post and you just keep goading.

 

[MobBoss]

Call.

Bah....ok, I was bluffing as I am way too lazy to sit scanning old posts of yours for proof. But I notice you didnt answer my question.

Let’s just say there is a track record here…

I think there is a larger track record of people making assumptions on what I post as opposed to just taking it on face value...

Classy Mobby. I apologize for misreading your post and you just keep goading.

Protip: Sincere apologies dont contain the word 'if'.

 

[Cutlass]

People can believe what they want, but they better not try to change this country into something like communism if that's what they believe.

Believe it, fine. Act on it in attempts to change the country into it, not fine.

There aren't enough real communists in the US to fill a football stadium. It's not like you have to actually worry about it.