NPR fires Juan Williams.

[JollyRoger]

Edit:

Latin seems rather absurd to use in a predominantly English forum.

Anyway, I'll add to this post while I'm at it. It seems NPR perfomed a very patriotic duty here. Mr. Williams is obviously easily terrorized, this deep into the war on terror. In fact, it is people that are still as easily as terrified as him that are arguably the root cause of us losing the war on terror. A patriotic media organization, during a time of war, should not employ someone so influential in us losing the war. Leave it to the less patriotic outfits to employ them if they deem his weakness in the face of what we are fighting is an asset to their agenda.

 

[Formaldehyde]

This "idiocy" here is apparently the notion that the two events are supposedly completely unrelated.

According to Fox News themselves:

NPR Bomb Threat Linked To Juan Williams Firing

I'm sure that NPR got bomb threats and the manager received death threats all the time before this firing.

Bonus headline:

Karl Rove Says “45 Percent of NPR Listeners Were Saddam Hussein”

NPR "tell it as they see it, and they usually get it right," Dean said of the radio outlet at a University of Delaware forum, according to Politico's report. And Fox doesn't get it right because Fox is a particular offender at making news instead of reporting it."

Rove reportedly interrupted: "45 percent of NPR listeners were Saddam Hussein."

Along with his strange criticism of NPR, Rove also blasted the New York Times and other print organizations, saying that they were "overwhelmingly liberal."

"They are systematically liberal, either politically or culturally, and they are unaware of it," Rove said, according to Politico.

Predictably, Rove claimed that Fox News and the Wall Street Journal were the solution to the woes of these outlets.

It is amazing that with such "idiots" as Karl Rove influencing the party that the Republicans can still win any election.

 

[DinoDoc]

This "idiocy" here is apparently the notion that the two events are supposedly completely unrelated.

In a thread discussing if the firing was justified or not, it isn't related in anyway.

 

[Formaldehyde]

Ah. First it was "idiocy". And now it's not "related".

Terrorist threats apparently directly related to the firiing of Juan Williams is clearly "related" to this thread. If you don't want to discuss it, fine. But why are you trying to censor me?

 

[Whiskey_Lord]

"45 percent of NPR listeners were Saddam Houssein."

What the fudge does that even mean? Are they cloning Iraqi dictators by the thousands now?

 

[Cutlass]

"45 percent of NPR listeners were Saddam Houssein."

What the fudge does that even mean? Are they cloning Iraqi dictators by the thousands now?

Just a clumsy effort as dehumanizing and discrediting. According to the far right, any 'news' organization that is not actively pushing the conservative agenda must, by definition, be pushing the liberal agenda. They refuse to see shades of gray.

 

[Formaldehyde]

They also refuse to see that many Republicans listen to that "liberal" source for largely unbiased reporting of the facts without any of the propaganda techniques and overt sensationalism found elsewhere. It is the same reason why they read newspapers such as the NY Times and the Washington Post.

 

[DinoDoc]

Ah. First it was "idiocy". And now it's not "related".

I wasn't aware the terms were mutually exclusive as I was saying your idiotic caterwalling was irrelevant to the thread from the start.
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[MobBoss]

This "idiocy" here is apparently the notion that the two events are supposedly completely unrelated.

No one said they were completely unrelated, but that there was a certain lack of direct evidence linking the two.

Did the guy who made the bomb threat even mention the firing of Williams?

No?

If they were related, dont you think they would have? At the very least to make sure it was understood they were related?

Seriously, Form. Your so busy knee jerking to slam Fox and conservatives, you fail to see the absence of hard evidence here. That's not to say some might be found as the investigation ensues, but to simply assume it without any fact to back it up isnt very accurate.

It is amazing that with such "idiots" as Karl Rove influencing the party that the Republicans can still win any election.

They also refuse to see that many Republicans listen to that "liberal" source for largely unbiased reporting of the facts without any of the propaganda techniques and overt sensationalism found elsewhere. It is the same reason why they read newspapers such as the NY Times and the Washington Post.

So republicans are idiots that listen to Karl Rove, but they also are informed intelligent people that listen to NPR???

How about we make up our mind, hmmm?

 

[FriendlyFire]

So republicans are idiots that listen to Karl Rove, but they also are informed intelligent people that listen to NPR???

How about we make up our mind, hmmm?

You know how it is. No matter what Bush said, No matter that at every public event, international gathering. Bush would make himself an embrassesment right up to the end of hes eight years.

Even when the economy collapsed Bush still had an 8% approval rating on hes handling of the economy.

Thats the way it is.

Been that way since Themistocles (sp?) smashed the persian army at Marathon. Went on to build the Athenian navy which broke the persian navy at Salamis. Then the fickle public exiled him finally ending up in the service of the persians as a Satrap.

 

[Formaldehyde]

So republicans are idiots that listen to Karl Rove, but they also are informed intelligent people that listen to NPR???

Is it your contention that "45 percent of NPR listeners were Saddam Hussein" isn't sheer idiocy and is believed by "intelligent people"?

Conservatives saw the savagery of 9/11 in the attacks and prepared for war; liberals saw the savagery of the 9/11 attacks and wanted to prepare indictments and offer therapy and understanding for our attackers, , Democrats Demand Rove Apologize for 9/11 Remarks. Karl Rove

See the second line of my sig for futher details.

And no, obviously not all Republicans listen to NPR or read quality newspapers. Many of them actually watch the drivel on Fox News instead and believe everything Karl Rove says. Even so, I obviously did not call them "idiots" as you falsely insinuated above.

 

[MobBoss]

Is it your contention that "45 percent of NPR listeners were Saddam Hussein" isn't sheer idiocy and is believed by "intelligent people"?

Well, Hussein is a popular name these days...

Conservatives saw the savagery of 9/11 in the attacks and prepared for war; liberals saw the savagery of the 9/11 attacks and wanted to prepare indictments and offer therapy and understanding for our attackers

Therapy and understanding? For our attackers?

Oh wow...now THAT is the funniest damned thing I have read in the last month.

Thanks for that Form...I needed that.

And no, obviously not all Republicans listen to NPR or read quality newspapers. Many of them actually watch the drivel on Fox News instead and believe everything Karl Rove says. Even so, I obviously did not call them "idiots" as you falsely insinuated above.

Dont you believe that people (i.e. republicans) that watch Foxnews and listen to Karl Rove are idiots? I mean I have seen some spin dancing before, but your cutting a rug there Form. Remember your education: If A = B = C then A = C as well.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

I am Saddam Houssein, and so is my wife!

 

[Hygro]

No, but right wingers, in a show of good faith, should close down Fox News. Keeping that station on the air in light of right wing terrorism is insensitive to the victims of the right-wing nutburgers.

MobBoss: +1 point for using the word "nutburger"
JollyRoger: +10 for reusing it as such

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

There's "a greater diversity there than I see in other networks," Rove said of Fox News.

Are there any left-wing liberal democrat type of anchors working at Fox?

 

[Ayn Rand]

Are there any left-wing liberal democrat type of anchors working at Fox?

It's privately funded. I think the complaints are because taxpayers are paying for NPR but it is quite clearly biased to the left/liberal side, so it doesn't represent the people paying for it and that isn't fair.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

It's privately funded. I think the complaints are because taxpayers are paying for NPR but it is quite clearly biased to the left/liberal side, so it doesn't represent the people paying for it and that isn't fair.

There's "a greater diversity there than I see in other networks," Rove said of Fox News.

Are there any left-wing liberal democrat type of anchors working at Fox?

Spoiler :

So I googled NPR ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NPR#Allegations_of_ideological_bias

Allegations of liberal bias

A 2005 study conducted by researchers at UCLA and the University of Missouri found that Morning Edition leans left. At the time Morning Edition had a bias comparable to the The Washington Post and the CBS Morning Show, and was slightly more liberal than Time, Newsweek and U.S. News & World Report.[25] It found Morning Edition to be more liberal than the average U.S. Republican of the time of the study and more conservative than the average U.S. Democrat of the time. Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting, a progressive media watchdog group,[26] disputes the claim of a liberal bias.[27]


Allegations of conservative bias

A December 2005 column run by NPR ombudsman and former Vice President Jeffrey Dvorkin denied allegations by some listeners that NPR relies heavily on conservative think-tanks.[28] In his column, Dvorkin listed the number of times NPR had cited experts from conservative and liberal think tanks in the previous year as evidence. The totals were 239 for conservative think tanks, and 141 for liberal ones. He noted that while the number of times liberal think tanks were cited was less, in addition to think tanks the liberal point of view is commonly provided by academics.

In 2003, some critics accused NPR of being supportive of the invasion of Iraq.[29][30]

Since I really don't know much about them, and it seems they're indeed biased ... both ways

 

[bhsup]

I've now got this freaky vision of Osama Bin Laden laying down on a couch and Kelsey Grammer as Frazer asking him why he hates his daddy.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

I've now got this freaky vision of Osama Bin Laden laying down on a couch and Kelsey Grammer as Frazer asking him why he hates his daddy.

"Because George never paid attention to me and spent all his time playing with Saddam "

Dun dun dun!

 

[bhsup]

COUNTER "PIC IS WORTH 1,000 WORDS" POST I'll let you decide just what 1,000 words this is worth!