Obama Backs Union; Imposes 35% Tariff on Tire Imports (PRC)
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Oh yeah? I am the audience and your numbers make no sense and is just pulled from your ass.
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Enkidu Warrior
Ultramagnetic
I certainly agree on environmental tariffs, but the tariff would have to be tied to the particular product, not just a general political punishment, and domestic producers would have to be placed under exactly the same regulatory framework. I'm not keen on punishing governments by throwing poorly targetted economic sticks at the general populace.
On the other hand this nationalist protectionism that Obama has just backed is clearly indefensible.
Rashiminos
Fool Prophet
Has Coolidge been re-elected?
So do their guns. If you want to kill a public servant...
SS-18 ICBM
Oscillator
I despise protectionism. This was not the change I was hoping for.
Guess we can get the money to pay back the Chinese from China!
If you don't recognize the brand name, odds are.... The $40 specials at tire stores. Anything from Pep Boys.
Seriously boys and girls, pay the price for name brand tires.
PeteAtoms
FormulaRandom
I know this is a little off topic (but still related: trade restrictions) but when will Obama lift the embargo on Cuba?
And I disagree with Cutlass about buying name brands. Actually, I don't want to put words in his mouth, if he means tires in particular, but in general I don't bother buying name brand anything, I usually by on the cheap. Cheap doesn't always mean lesser quality. If that's not the case with tires, I'll shut up about it.
And I disagree with Cutlass about buying name brands. Actually, I don't want to put words in his mouth, if he means tires in particular, but in general I don't bother buying name brand anything, I usually by on the cheap. Cheap doesn't always mean lesser quality. If that's not the case with tires, I'll shut up about it.
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Well, not necessarily american, but the sentiments are correct. The plain economic fact is that if people will pay extra for quality (or even a perception of quality), provided that they have enough information to make an informed choice. Ultimately, subsidies and tarrifs are destructive, because they don't encourage any internal efficiencies.
For example, the US tyre industry would be best to restructure, improve internal efficiencies and highlight the differentiation between products. Maybe even introduce their own "economy" range of tyres.
good tires can be the difference between life and death
innonimatu
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This is true, but...
But that can also encourage a race to the bottom. It's now normal to assume that the consumer is always right - meaning that the market outcomes are always right - but that's not so. Poor information is inevitable, and so are poor choices.
And I do not believe that people will pay extra for quality. People will get whatever seems "good enough" and seek lower prices. That is the rationale for so many consumer products have specifications constrained by regulations, instead of leaving choice to the market. Admittedly some may be exaggerated, or even even disguised protectionism or support for some particular manufactured obtained though successful lobbying - but most people don't question the reasons presented for regulation: that without it cheaper, lower quality products, would displace the "better" ones.
Price competition can also create a feedback mechanism leading to general degradation of quality of some mass-produced goods. If it is something which has big economies of scale the competing manufacturers may not be capable of separating the product economically into high-quality and low-quality versions: low volume of the high-quality version can lead to much higher prices and cause it to be pulled out from the market entirely. Or be affordable to most consumers, while it would have been affordable had it been mass-produced.
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I agree, which is pretty-much why I also said
Or even a misinformed one. Get people to believe that they're paying more for quality, and that they need to buy quality, and they might. SLapping tarrifs on to make people buy "quality" (when the reality can be that they're not actually buying better quality, but just the same quality at a higher price), doesn't help the consumer.
Or even a misinformed one. Get people to believe that they're paying more for quality, and that they need to buy quality, and they might. SLapping tarrifs on to make people buy "quality" (when the reality can be that they're not actually buying better quality, but just the same quality at a higher price), doesn't help the consumer.
sonorakitch
Overseas hunter
Or if one really wants quality....buy French.
