Obama reaches out to Iran with video message

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WASHINGTON (AP) — President Barack Obama is reaching out to the Iranian people in a new video with Farsi subtitles, saying the U.S. is prepared to end years of strained relations if Tehran tones down its bellicose rhetoric.

The video released Friday was timed to the festival of Nowruz (no-ROOZ), which means "new day" and marks the arrival of spring. It's a major holiday in Iran.

"So in this season of new beginnings I would like to speak clearly to Iran's leaders," Obama said in the video. "We have serious differences that have grown over time. My administration is now committed to diplomacy that addresses the full range of issues before us, and to pursuing constructive ties among the United States, Iran and the international community."

Obama has signaled a willingness to speak directly with Iran about its nuclear program and hostility toward Israel, a key U.S. ally. At his inauguration last month, the president said his administration would reach out to rival states, declaring "we will extend a hand if you are willing to unclench your fist."

It's been a rough start for Obama.

Iran's supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has criticized Obama as merely a continuation of President George W. Bush's policies toward Tehran's enemy, Israel. Khamenei has called Israel a "cancerous tumor" that is on the verge of collapse and has called for its destruction.

In his message Friday, Obama had a warning for Tehran: "This process will not be advanced by threats. We seek instead engagement that is honest and grounded in mutual respect."

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has said Iran would welcome talks with the U.S. — but only if there was mutual respect. Iranian officials have said that means the U.S. needs to stop accusing Iran of seeking to build nuclear weapons and supporting terrorism, charges Tehran has denied.

Obama and his foreign policy team are looking for opportunities to engage Iran and help reduce tensions between the two countries, which increased during Bush's time in office.

"You, too, have a choice. The United States wants the Islamic Republic of Iran to take its rightful place in the community of nations," Obama said. "You have that right, but it comes with real responsibilities, and that place cannot be reached through terror or arms, but rather through peaceful actions that demonstrate the true greatness of the Iranian people and civilization."

The White House said the United States still has serious differences with Iran, particularly on the threat a nuclear-armed Tehran poses to the region. But aides said the president's message was a way to speak directly to Iranians about the U.S. commitment to work with the country.

The video also was an attempt to bypass government leaders. Obama has said there are unelected leaders in Iran who could change the countries' position of hostility.

The White House said a Farsi subtitled version of the video would be given to select news outlets in the region. At the same time, the video would be available online in English and with Farsi captions.

The holiday Nowruz is not Islamic; Iranians of all religions celebrate the 12-day event. Traditionally, the U.S. president and secretary of state release statements for Nowruz.

"For nearly three decades relations between our nations have been strained," Obama said in his video message. "But at this holiday we are reminded of the common humanity that binds us together."

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Obama is bad news for people in western countries who hate America. They won't get the conflict they want. He's healing America's image all around the world. :)
 
Yeah, saw this. Apparently, the US will attend the next SCO meeting in Moscow, I'd say there's a very good chance they will have informal talks at that. Supposedly, Iran won't be offered full membership at this meeting, I wonder is it possible that eventually they will be offered membership in return for a guarantee to not build nuclear weapons... just an idea. It would solve many a problem for all sides.
 
Two possible explanations:

1) Obama is a cunning diplomat - he's offering a helping hand knowing the Iranians will refuse it, thus scoring points with the public opinion. He will then be able to say "Well, I tried to solve this peacefully!"

2) Obama is so naive that he believes this could actually work.

If it's the 2nd option, Gods with us... :scared:
 
How do you think this will go, Bast? will the Iranian and the Yanquis make a deal? What might it look like?
 
Two possible explanations:

1) Obama is a cunning diplomat - he's offering a helping hand knowing the Iranians will refuse it, thus scoring points with the public opinion. He will then be able to say "Well, I tried to solve this peacefully!"

2) Obama is so naive that he believes this could actually work.

I think explanation 1 is accurate. Obama is not as naive as he would have us all believe.


RedRalphWiggum said:
Yeah cause Bush's approach was so successful

No you should say because the USA's approach for the past 60 years was so successful. ;)
 
I thought that was some ethnic group in Iran at first. :lol: I don't know. Iran has elections coming up also so it's unpredictable.

My 2c is that nothing at all will make them give up nuclear power, or support for Hizb'allah. I think that's a lines in the sand for them. But I think they could be persuaded to not develop nuclear weapons, if in fact they are even doing that. I could see a situation where they guarantee that they wont become a nuclear armed state if the US guarantees it won't attack and ends sanctions.
 
How do you possibly respect the Iranian government? What do you respect about them? Their execution of political dissidents, homosexuals and adulterers? Their funding of terrorism? Their supplying of EFP's to kill our troops? Their frequent "Death to America" rallies?
 
How do you possibly respect the Iranian government? What do you respect about them? Their execution of political dissidents, homosexuals and adulterers? Their funding of terrorism? Their supplying of EFP's to kill our troops? Their frequent "Death to America" rallies?

They banned Swingtown.

YES. YES. 10000 POSTS. I WIN LIFE.
 
Two possible explanations:

1) Obama is a cunning diplomat - he's offering a helping hand knowing the Iranians will refuse it, thus scoring points with the public opinion. He will then be able to say "Well, I tried to solve this peacefully!"

2) Obama is so naive that he believes this could actually work.

If it's the 2nd option, Gods with us... :scared:

You forgot Option 3: Obama is a cunning diplomat - It could actually work.

(by work I mean do more good than harm)
 
Its good news anyway since I believe that the Iranians can be negotiated with.

Indeed.

You have that right -- but it comes with real responsibilities, and that place cannot be reached through terror or arms, but rather through peaceful actions that demonstrate the true greatness of the Iranian people and civilization. And the measure of that greatness is not the capacity to destroy, it is your demonstrated ability to build and create."

Substitute the words "American" or "Israeli" for Iranian" and you get some great irony...
 
Not possible BSmith, the Iranians are not people, they can't be negotiated with, only exterminated.

Oh right… what was I thinking there?

Now back to your regularly scheduled demagoguery…

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Yeah cause Bush's approach was so successful

Why are you bringing Bush into this is beyond me :crazyeye:

I think explanation 1 is accurate. Obama is not as naive as he would have us all believe.

I genuinely hope so.

You forgot Option 3: Obama is a cunning diplomat - It could actually work.

It can't work.

Iran is not a democracy in which the citizens can influence foreign policy of their country. Heck, they can't even influence most domestic policies. Iranian women are probably the most emancipated in the Muslim world (along with Turkish women), yet they're forced to wear clothes they don't like and are constantly being harassed by religious police for being too unveiled. Iranians are much more open to Western culture than other nations in the Middle East, yet their government denies them access to Western literature, movies, music etc.

Addressing Iranian people is a nice gesture, but it can't change anything. Unless the Iranians get rid of the crazy regime that has hijacked their country and which is driving it towards a disaster, there is nothing the US or anybody else can do.
 
Why should Iran change its approach when it (not the people, the leaders) get everything they want as it is?
 
It can't work.

Iran is not a democracy in which the citizens can influence foreign policy of their country. Heck, they can't even influence most domestic policies. Iranian women are probably the most emancipated in the Muslim world (along with Turkish women), yet they're forced to wear clothes they don't like and are constantly being harassed by religious police for being too unveiled. Iranians are much more open to Western culture than other nations in the Middle East, yet their government denies them access to Western literature, movies, music etc.

Addressing Iranian people is a nice gesture, but it can't change anything. Unless the Iranians get rid of the crazy regime that has hijacked their country and which is driving it towards a disaster, there is nothing the US or anybody else can do.

Your argument is like criticizing taking a step to the east when your goal is to go a mile to the east because the one step will not take you the full mile.

It is a step in the right direction that will help get you to the end goal. It is not a panacea or a silver bullet, but you have to start somewhere.

If you never take that first step east, you will never make it the full mile.
 
Oh right… what was I thinking there?

Now back to your regularly scheduled demagoguery…

:lol::lol:

OMG Obama spoke Persian! He really is the anti-Christ!

(Interestingly, the phrase he used, Eid-eh Shoma Mobarak does not appear in the Persian transcript, but rather سپاسگزارم. هر روزتان نوروز، نوروزتان پيروز which isn't the right words, but it means the same thing).
 
It can't work.

Iran is not a democracy in which the citizens can influence foreign policy of their country. Heck, they can't even influence most domestic policies. Iranian women are probably the most emancipated in the Muslim world (along with Turkish women), yet they're forced to wear clothes they don't like and are constantly being harassed by religious police for being too unveiled. Iranians are much more open to Western culture than other nations in the Middle East, yet their government denies them access to Western literature, movies, music etc.

Addressing Iranian people is a nice gesture, but it can't change anything. Unless the Iranians get rid of the crazy regime that has hijacked their country and which is driving it towards a disaster, there is nothing the US or anybody else can do.

Oh dear.

First, Iran is a democracy, its just not a Western one.

Second, Iranians can and do influence their government. The continued celebration of Nowruz, the very topic of Obama's speech, is probably the best example of this! The government tried to shut it down in the early 80s, but people got so pissed off by it that the government relented and now allows this pre-Islamic festival to occur. The government is on a slippery slope with the increasingly cultured Iranian people, and the government knows that, which is why the Mullahs don't push it and are increasingly relenting on issues. Iran is not a police state, it has plenty of contact with the West, just not the US, because they two nations insist on acting like the diplomatic equivalent of teenage girls towards one another. Iranians watch TV and buy Western products, and have their own equivalent in many ways as well. Stop trying to create Iran into some sort of Middle Eastern North Korea impenetrable big brother fortress police state of evil where rainbows are banned and smiles put you in the gulag.

If you're remotely interested in the truth, though I doubt you are, the last few chapters of Genieve Abdo's book No God But God do a good job of describing how the Iranian government has failed to impose its values on the Iranian people, and is worth a read.
 
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