The danger of repealing DADT:
Obama to call for repeal of DADT in State of the Union
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I look at mixed sex units, and see all kinds of problems they have. I see some of those problems arising if we have openly gay individuals running around the camp. How can you not think having openly gay males age 18-22 living and training together in the same unit won't cause similar problems to having 18-22 y/o men and women living and training together? Am I way off base here? And BTW, talking about discrimination, what about no women in combat arms? There definately aren't any legit reasons for that either, right?
Anyway, this decision is outta my paygrade, so i'm gonna stop and go back to worrying about things that are important.
Anyway, this decision is outta my paygrade, so i'm gonna stop and go back to worrying about things that are important.
Formaldehyde
Both Fair And Balanced
I personally don't see what the big deal is. After all, it's not like they can now get married.
Is basic training having that big of an EPIC FAIL on teaching you all some self discipline?
sophie
Break My Heart
Are you implying that gays are sex-crazed loonies that try fornicate with the first male individual you see?
If so, let me answer that with another question. Do you, as a (presumably) straight male try to have sex with the first person of the opposite sex you lay eyes on?
A cynic from the outside will look at the US political system and believe it was set up to reflect the will of the corporations.
The will of the people, applies in my country but hardly applies in the USA with your present set up.
Does any voter in the US believe your supreme court is neutral when it comes to a political tiff ? example Bush.
I said they are the same as straight men and women, numbskull.
Comprehend what you read before posting a canned response. Its like arguing with a pro-choicer about abortion. Never mention religion, but thats all they talk about.
Still haven't answered my post. Why do you think it works in all those countries on the list I posted? (including countries that see active action like Israel, UK, Germany, Italy, France, UK) What makes the US military different and distinct from the militaries of these countries that would render it incapable of allowing gays to serve openly? Is the US military more conservative than the Filipino military? Or the Brazillian?
sophie
Break My Heart
Maybe not in the short run, but the supreme court tends to be very balanced in the long run. Would we have integrated schools, Miranda rights, etc. if it weren't for SCOTUS? (short answer: no)
IDK its not one that needs answering.
If Luxembourg jumped off a cliff....
I told you specifically what my issues are, based on what I see in the US military. IDK what goes on in any of those places, or how they are run, and don't care. I don't make decisions because I want to be popular, I make them because they make sense.
Formaldehyde
Both Fair And Balanced
I wonder if soldiers will now feel pressure to put out for their openly gay superiors. And who will be the first openly gay general?
And will making gay porn while in the 82nd Airborne still be considered to be illegal?
And will making gay porn while in the 82nd Airborne still be considered to be illegal?
And yet straight men and women can "tell" without getting booted out. You think it would be better if we expanded DADT to include straights?
Make up your mind. Either they are the same or they are not.
JohnRM
Don't make me destroy you
What is, "the right thing to do."
You are misrepresenting what I said. Pretty quick on getting it quoted though, lol, I changed it fast.
OK. Does it make sense to keep women (or men) out of the armed forces because of the problems caused with them serving together? Yes/No? You know what, women aren't allowed in the combat arms, and these problems are a big reason why. So at least for parts of the military, the answer is yes.
Does it make sense to keep openly gay individuals out? Does the benefit of allowing gays to serve openly outweigh the problems it might cause? From my perspective, no. Like with women, though, I don't see an issue in some areas.
Ultimately, though, its not my decision, I'm just offering my opinions.
If quoting what you said is misrepresenting what you said, then guilty as charged.
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