Paris Hilton is out of jail !?!

[Lotus49]

Shielded? How so? Because of a different social layer she was in? Big whoop. The law is the law and she broke it, repeatedly.

Well, that's just great. Spank the rich girl, while we all crowd around and get our kicks from it, eh? I'll just quote the Sheriff who released her:


"My message to those who don't like celebrities is that punishing celebrities more than the average American is not justice." He also added "Under our early release program, she would not have served any time in our jail, or would have been directly put on our home electronic monitoring system, [..] So the special treatment, in a sense, appears to be ... more time in jail."


Trust me, if it were you or me in her situation, we would not be doing hard time (or any time, for that matter).

But, she's rich - and you're all jealous. So, let's see if we can traumatize the poor woman, and ruin her life a little bit. Because we really get a kick out of that... being the big men that we are, eh?

 

[Mise]

All things considered, you have to understand she really didn't know what she was getting into. As I just described above - she was shielded from what the typical person would experience, and now it's suddenly smacking her in the face (and she's not mentally equipped to handle it).

But it's her responsibility to find out what she's getting into, no-one else's. She can't abdicate responsibility by claiming that she was shielded from knowledge of the consequences. If she was explicitly lied to, or prevented from knowing what would happen, then fair enough, but she wasn't - it simply didn't occur to her that jail was a highly undesirable and realistic consequence.

I do take your point, however, that sometimes the person isn't responsible for knowing consequences, but she's a grown woman. I don't think any amount of "shielding" justifies a lighter sentence for that reason.

 

[Kozmos]

The Law is the Law. She fought the Law and lost.

 

[Bugfatty300]

She's smiling to prevent Paris's misery from creating a woe singularity that could consume the universe. It's yin and yang.

Well, if she was smiling then it is because she one of those hot lesbian cops who's gonna get to strip search Paris...again. Paris is crying because the cop winked at her and flashed a pair of latex gloves before putting her in the cruiser.

At least thats my interpretation. But yours is good also.

 

[Lotus49]

But it's her responsibility to find out what she's getting into, no-one else's. She can't abdicate responsibility by claiming that she was shielded from knowledge of the consequences. If she was explicitly lied to, or prevented from knowing what would happen, then fair enough, but she wasn't - it simply didn't occur to her that jail was a highly undesirable and realistic consequence.

I do take your point, however, that sometimes the person isn't responsible for knowing consequences, but she's a grown woman. I don't think any amount of "shielding" justifies a lighter sentence for that reason.

Yeah, it's a big complicated world that doesn't mess around, and you'd better be streetsmart, and lose your naivity early on, and watch out for yourself. But here, we have the epitome of a woman that has been completely unable to really do that in life, thus has no foundation for dealing with these types of things. She's totally out of her element, like if JonBenét Ramsey had been suddenly dropped into USMC bootcamp and was expected to 'fall in line'. It's not reasonable, from a humane perspective. Like I said... different people, for different punishments/circumstances.

Paris Hilton is not the 'chain gang' type. C'mon now... I know you guys think this is just too funny, but let's have some mercy for how things are supposed to work in God's creation! Some people are not cut out for this kind of thing - seriously.

But, there are some kind of forces at work here, that want to 'teach her a lesson'. Just look at the media for example. They're really getting off on this. All I'm saying, is that in this creation some people are just meant to be the Marie Antoinette's. Let them serve their purpose, and leave them alone. Justice is not for man to decide. So, let's just be fair, at least.

 

[Methos]

Ignorance of the law does not absolve you from it, nor does your lack of experience in life. If I'm reading your statements correctly, your saying she should get a reduced sentence just because she's not as experienced in life? Let's look at what got her to this point, not the jail time itself, but what got her here.

1. She broke the law and she agreed in court to surrendering her drivers license.
2. She was pulled over twice while driving on a suspended license.

So your saying that because of the life she's led, she should receive less punishment even though she purposely ignored her own agreement to give up her drivers license?

Edit: Here's a CNN timeline of what brought her up to the point she's currently at.

 

[nivi]

Edit: Here's a CNN timeline of what brought her up to the point she's currently at.

Don't why I'm laughing so hard just becuase CNN made a timelind, it's just funny that they make timelines for wars and the arrest of celebritys.

 

[Lotus49]

Ignorance of the law does not absolve you from it, nor does your lack of experience in life. If I'm reading your statements correctly, your saying she should get a reduced sentence just because she's not as experienced in life? Let's look at what got her to this point, not the jail time itself, but what got her here.

1. She broke the law and she agreed in court to surrendering her drivers license.
2. She was pulled over twice while driving on a suspended license.

So your saying that because of the life she's led, she should receive less punishment even though she purposely ignored her own agreement to give up her drivers license?

Edit: Here's a CNN timeline of what brought her up to the point she's currently at.

I know how she got to this point. It all started with the DUI charge - which was THE absolute bare minimum blood alcohol level to be considered illegal in CA. I've known guys that were stopped at over twice the limit, swerving all over the road, plus it wasn't their first offense, and they got community service - just the one night in jail when it happened.

I'm pretty sure this is Hilton's FIRST brush with the law, it's not like she's some hardened criminal with a long history of law-breaking. It's the ones that keep coming back to court with new offenses, over and over, that get jail time. Here, Paris got a .08 and later on went driving/speeding at night w/ no lights on. I'd say her license should be revoked, at least 50-60 hrs community service for MADD or some related organization, plus some kind of alcohol education program, etc. Maybe an additional fine.

But throwing somebody in the slammer just doesn't fit in this case. A 'typical' person would not have this done to them - because it would really screw up their life (loss of job, etc.) -That's why they don't do it, unless it's warranted.

But, she's rich and spoiled, so... let's lock her up and watch her squirm!

 

[nivi]

I know how she got to this point. It all started with the DUI charge - which was THE absolute bare minimum blood alcohol level to be considered illegal in CA. I've known guys that were stopped at over twice the limit, swerving all over the road, plus it wasn't their first offense, and they got community service - just the one night in jail when it happened.

I'm pretty sure this is Hilton's FIRST brush with the law, it's not like she's some hardened criminal with a long history of law-breaking. It's the ones that keep coming back to court with new offenses, over and over, that get jail time. Here, Paris got a .08 and later on went driving/speeding at night w/ no lights on. I'd say her license should be revoked, at least 50-60 hrs community service for MADD or some related organization, plus some kind of alcohol education program, etc. Maybe an additional fine.

Errrr, dude, she only got probation on that one, which is why she is in the current mess.

They already tryed telling her not to drive, didn't work.

 

[Lotus49]

Errrr, dude, she only got probation on that one, which is why she is in the current mess.

They already tryed telling her not to drive, didn't work.

'Dude!' This is America... we don't throw people in jail for a month because they drive on a suspended license while on probation for their first offense!

But, you guys have no mercy. Lest ye be judged.

 

[useless]

this is music to my ears!

 

[nivi]

'Dude!' This is America... we don't throw people in jail for a month because they drive on a suspended license while on probation for their first offense!

But, you guys have no mercy. Lest ye be judged.

What is the point of probation then?

 

[Methos]

It all started with the DUI charge - which was THE absolute bare minimum blood alcohol level to be considered illegal in CA.

Limits are set to define the law. It doesn't matter if it is the bare minimum or twice it, the limit is there to define what constitutes breaking that law.

I'm pretty sure this is Hilton's FIRST brush with the law, it's not like she's some hardened criminal with a long history of law-breaking.

This is not her first charge, as shown here:

• Sept. 7, 2006 Original DUI charge
• Jan. 15, 2007 Driving on a suspended license - sentenced to 36 months probation and must attend an alcohol education class.
• Feb. 27, 2007 Driving on a suspended license - this violates her probation

When a person is put on probation it basically means they are put on a suspended sentence. So long as that person doesn't violate their probation the actual sentence won't be carried out. In other words, she violated her probation and therefore the actual sentence (read jail time) goes into affect.

I'd say her license should be revoked, at least 50-60 hrs community service for MADD or some related organization, plus some kind of alcohol education program, etc. Maybe an additional fine.

I don't mean to laugh at you, but I honestly don't believe you know what has happened up to this point. Read back over her case and you'll see that on Jan. 15^th she had her license revoked, ordered to pay a monetary fine, and ordered to take an alcohol education class. That is exactly what you stated above, only without the community service! She's already been given that punishment and she ignored it.

A 'typical' person would not have this done to them - because it would really screw up their life (loss of job, etc.)

I disagree and to explain why, I suggest you look at the statistics of California's prison population. A large part of the population is parole and probation violations. Edit: I think I might be getting this part wrong, as I can't relocate the page where I was reading this. I apologize if I'm in error.

'Dude!' This is America... we don't throw people in jail for a month because they drive on a suspended license while on probation for their first offense!

Your forgetting the charges of DUI on top of the suspended license.

Edit: Until this thread, I didn't know so much about Paris Hilton!

 

[ThERat]

the picture of her crying in the car is priceless

I know I am mean but if you have ever watched her stupid show 'simple life', you know she is a freaking bi$#@.... She can now eat her own medicine sweeeeeeeeet

as for Lotus, I have no clue why you defend her...what if she had killed one of your relatives while driving drunk? I know socities treat drunk driving a bit lax, but it's an awful thing to do

 

[Lotus49]

To nivi & Methos: I am fully aware of the recent history in detail (I meant 'no prior brush with the law' as in prior to the DUI there was no criminal history, and really this is all about the DUI - and the probation violation thereafter which is directly linked to it). As for the probation violation being the green light to throw her in jail... "Hilton's original 45-day sentence was considered by many to be excessive". -That's on plenty of news websites, and I agree. 45 days in jail, for a FIRST offense (the DUI, a .08) is indeed excessive. To receive ANY jail time (not to mention that much) for a first offense of this nature is practically unheard of.

But please, don't let me interfere with the international circus of orgasmic joy that is going on, regarding this issue.

 

[skadistic]

'Dude!' This is America... we don't throw people in jail for a month because they drive on a suspended license while on probation for their first offense!

But, you guys have no mercy. Lest ye be judged.

Yes we do put people in jail in violation of probation for the first offence when that primary charge was drunk driving. At least they do around here.

 

[Kozmos]

Face it Lotus...you have a crush on her. She deserved her jail time.

 

[useless]

Face it Lotus...you have a crush on her. She deserved her jail time.

she deserves more then she originallt has...

 

[Kozmos]

Because she fought the law again. And lost again.

 

[Hitti-Litti]

Lotus49@ Why should people receive probation if there wouldn't be jail for failing to follow the rules? Probation is given because the crime wasn't enough to put to jail. If probation is offended then jail is the right place!