Political Compass Meme Thread

Manic Street Preachers and Pulp
 
Blur are what?
I thought they were just pretentious chavs :)
They met at Goldsmiths, so that'd be a pretty loose definition of "chav".

That was pretty much the thing about Blur, their public [edit]image[/edit] was of a bunch of Southern art school kids, which presented a natural rivalry with Oasis, whose image was of blue collar Northern kids who left school at 16. (Neither of these is entirely true, but it's what people imagined.)

Pulp were tricky because they were Northern working class art school kids, which was a thing that still seemed very nearly plausible in the early nineties.
 
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They met at Goldsmiths, so that'd be a pretty loose definition of "chav".

That was pretty much the thing about Blur, their public was of a bunch of Southern art school kids, which presented a natural rivalry with Oasis, whose image was of blue collar Northern kids who left school at 16. (Neither of these is entirely true, but it's what people imagined.)

Pulp were tricky because they were Northern working class art school kids, which was a thing that still seemed very nearly plausible in the early nineties.

 
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They met at Goldsmiths, so that'd be a pretty loose definition of "chav".

That was pretty much the thing about Blur, their public [edit]image[/edit] was of a bunch of Southern art school kids, which presented a natural rivalry with Oasis, whose image was of blue collar Northern kids who left school at 16. (Neither of these is entirely true, but it's what people imagined.)

Pulp were tricky because they were Northern working class art school kids, which was a thing that still seemed very nearly plausible in the early nineties.

Yeah I actually started with a Blur/Manics contrast and worked outwards from there. Blur's whole middle class, vaguely nationalistic, southern English art school snobbery thing, and all those weirdly contemptuous portraits of individuals or groups of people (Charmless Man, Tracy Jacks, Country House, Girls and Boys, Parklife) strike me as very fash-friendly in a Marinetti sort of way. I like a fair amount of mid-90s Blur, but there's a core meanness or even cruelty there which I've always found unsettling.

I'm probably being harshest on Oasis tbh.
 
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^Blair (and Blur ;) ) were junk. Archetypical chav attitude, which at the time was tied to being young & dismissive in Britain in the start of the Blair years. Not that they were the epitomy of that; Suede takes the cake there (at least in the album they still had the original guitarist; later on they became irrelevant).

TBH Suede could have been really good, if not for the repugnant attitude.

 
I'm really starting to wondering if Kyriakos knows what "chav" means.

I admit that i am too lazy to look it up, yet liked the vaguely insulting vibe of the term.

I just recalled how Ali G was termed a possible chav, according to what impression he might have made to Tony Benn in that interview.

edit: ok, i now looked it up. Right. I actually thought it was a middle or higher class such person. The attitude is the one i was thinking of, though. So, what would a middle or higher class person with such an attitude be termed as in the UK? A chavesque toff so to speak :jesus:
 
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What kind of creature bore you?
Was it some kind of bat?
They can't find a good word for you,
But I can, T...

Dr. John Cooper Clarke.
 
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