[POLL] More Wonders for VP

What is your opinion on Flavoured Help Texts unique for More Wonders mod?

  • I like them and I use them every game

  • I use them from time to time to check how they perform

  • I use them only to give some feedback to the author

  • I prefer original version, but I don't mind them

  • I prefer original version, but I played with them few times

  • I don't like them in their current state, but I think they can be improved

  • I don't like them and disable them every game

  • I like them, but still I think they can be improved


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I believe that theming bonuses for new WW are less than in base VP. For example, I lose culture when I place GW from museums to Museum Island
What values would you suggest?
 
I think that theming bonuses for new WW should be doubled at least. Because for me, in Industrial Imperial College has +15, and Royal Collection +22, Uffizi +22, but Siku Quanshu +12, Museum Island +12 and Wartburg +10.
When maxed?
Some time ago I did a little buff. I guess I need to do that again.
 
Yes, when maxed.
Hmm, strange, remember Siku Qanshu, Museum Island and Golden Dagon Pagoda have 4 different theming bonuses, so if you don't have appropriate set, then you get only part of the bonus, and maximum is when let's say Museum Island has 4 art from different players and consecutive eras. This is your maximum and comparing the table it is tremendous number.

Nevertheless, I increased the bonuses a bit, because these are World Wonders, so it would be nice if they were better than regular building or National Wonders.

This will be the current set. Let me know if anything is wrong, too big or too small.
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v23.1 with some changes and fixes. For more details on theming bonuses, look above:
Code:
- increased theming bonuses on all World Wonders;
- fixed Moray Terraces/JFK Hill requirement;
- fixed Great Zimbabwe tooltip;
 
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Is this savegame compatible? In new game I don't have Museum Island, I have Siku Qanshu and it says 4 GW from you and in consequtive eras, but as far as I can test by moving GW around, it doesn't matter what era or even from you or other civ it just gives +12.
 
Is this savegame compatible? In new game I don't have Museum Island, I have Siku Qanshu and it says 4 GW from you and in consequtive eras, but as far as I can test by moving GW around, it doesn't matter what era or even from you or other civ it just gives +12.
Can you elaborate? If you put 4 GWs from 4 different eras but one after another, so let's say Classical, Medieval, Renaissance and Industrial then you should get more. If you have all of them from you then you also should get more, but not as much as from consecutive eras.

It's not savegame compatible.
 
Can you elaborate? If you put 4 GWs from 4 different eras but one after another, so let's say Classical, Medieval, Renaissance and Industrial then you should get more. If you have all of them from you then you also should get more, but not as much as from consecutive eras.

It's not savegame compatible.
Exactly, I place Classical, Medieval, Renaissance and Industrial all from me, or all Medieval from me, or even 1-2 GW from other civ and I get same amount of culture.
 
Exactly, I place Classical, Medieval, Renaissance and Industrial all from me, or all Medieval from me, or even 1-2 GW from other civ and I get same amount of culture.
That's not what it should be. Can you make some screenshots, and place them on the discord, or create an issue on github? We could investigate this closer.
The value of tourism (or theming) should be bigger. The table defines what it should look for. Hmm...
 
It is probably the same problem AndreyK found in Afghanistan.

When several themes can be fulfilled by same set of works, it doesn't seem to pick the largest bonus. Rather, it picks the one that was uploaded to the database first (!)
You can read here:
 
It is probably the same problem AndreyK found in Afghanistan.

When several themes can be fulfilled by same set of works, it doesn't seem to pick the largest bonus. Rather, it picks the one that was uploaded to the database first (!)
You can read here:
So the order should be reversed. I see. Damn, it didn't work right from the start 😅
 
v23.2 with an important fix:
Code:
- fixed theming bonuses for multi-themed World Wonders;

@AndreyK Test it and let me know if it fixed the issue. Not savegame compatible, so new game must be started I guess.
 
v23.2 with an important fix:
Code:
- fixed theming bonuses for multi-themed World Wonders;

@AndreyK Test it and let me know if it fixed the issue. Not savegame compatible, so new game must be started I guess.
Just now was able to build and theme Siku Qanshu in a new version. Now themed with Classical, Medieval, Renaissance and Industrial all from me and have theming bonus 51 (in previous was 12), so now they work very well. But may be now we can reverse last increase of bonuses.
 
New 4.16.2 VP version changed the AssignStartingPlots.lua file.
This is the updated file for More Wonders.
It goes in MODS\(9) More Wonders for VP\2.NaturalWonders\DefaultFiles folder.
 

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New 4.16.2 VP version changed the AssignStartingPlots.lua file.
This is the updated file for More Wonders.
It goes in MODS\(9) More Wonders for VP\2.NaturalWonders\DefaultFiles folder.
As always, thanks for the input :worship:
 
v23.3 is out with some fixes:
Code:
- fixed Great Barrier Reef science bug;
- updated AssignStartingPlots.lua file to VP 4.16.2;
 
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