Dom Pedro II
Modder For Life
I thought so too... the unit requires more tweaking.
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Bóreas
The Wind of the North
Where would the GG Elephant fit on a time scale?
they're from very different times..
anyway i loved that idea, and the unit art looks awesome!
they're from very different times..
anyway i loved that idea, and the unit art looks awesome!
Dom Pedro II
Modder For Life
The gatling gun elephant was suggested to me by someone here on the forums, and I poopooed it originally, but in fact, they DID exist. Perhaps they would have been more well-known if the English had a serious opponent in India to fight during that time.
The gatling gun elephant works well basically from 1860s-1910 in terms of the historical timeline.
Basically, I agreed to make this unit for Kal-El a long time ago because he has many more cavalry than in the regular game. Basically, the Civ3 cavalry is from the Napoleonic era... the upgrade to that would be a late 19th century cavalry. Alternatively, my Elephant Cavalry is from the late 18th, early 19th century, and thus upgrades to the gatling gun elephant.
Now, perhaps in real life, this would not be a very effective unit. Rifles had improved dramatically enough that to pick off an elephant could be done with relative ease if there were enough men firing on them. But at the same time, with bullets raking across the ground from the gatling gun as well as the visual effect of a dozen elephants charging right at you might make them more effective.
In reality, prior to World War I, the European armies didn't even include the machineguns/gatling guns in their training exercises because it was felt that they would only slow down the other infantry. After all, these guns were originally VERY heavy. So they were never envisioned as being very useful because they had little offensive capabilities, and the European armies of the the pre-war era were obsessed with the offensive.
Now, an elephant, can turn an ostensibly DEFENSIVE weapon into an OFFENSIVE weapon since it can carry this monstrosity on its back where a horse could not. So it would be able to keep up with infantry movement. More likely than not, however, the elephants would just be the platform for moving the guns but that they would be used on the ground. After all, even by the end of the Civil War, cavalry units had effective become "mounted infantry" when fighting in open combat. In other words, as John Buford said, the horse is just to get you from place to place quickly. The only time when the cavalrymen stayed on their horses were against other cavalry, during reconaissance, or in raids where they would encounter few if any infantry. Well, at least, that was the strategy of the cavalry units that chose to stay alive...
The gatling gun elephant works well basically from 1860s-1910 in terms of the historical timeline.
Basically, I agreed to make this unit for Kal-El a long time ago because he has many more cavalry than in the regular game. Basically, the Civ3 cavalry is from the Napoleonic era... the upgrade to that would be a late 19th century cavalry. Alternatively, my Elephant Cavalry is from the late 18th, early 19th century, and thus upgrades to the gatling gun elephant.
Now, perhaps in real life, this would not be a very effective unit. Rifles had improved dramatically enough that to pick off an elephant could be done with relative ease if there were enough men firing on them. But at the same time, with bullets raking across the ground from the gatling gun as well as the visual effect of a dozen elephants charging right at you might make them more effective.
In reality, prior to World War I, the European armies didn't even include the machineguns/gatling guns in their training exercises because it was felt that they would only slow down the other infantry. After all, these guns were originally VERY heavy. So they were never envisioned as being very useful because they had little offensive capabilities, and the European armies of the the pre-war era were obsessed with the offensive.
Now, an elephant, can turn an ostensibly DEFENSIVE weapon into an OFFENSIVE weapon since it can carry this monstrosity on its back where a horse could not. So it would be able to keep up with infantry movement. More likely than not, however, the elephants would just be the platform for moving the guns but that they would be used on the ground. After all, even by the end of the Civil War, cavalry units had effective become "mounted infantry" when fighting in open combat. In other words, as John Buford said, the horse is just to get you from place to place quickly. The only time when the cavalrymen stayed on their horses were against other cavalry, during reconaissance, or in raids where they would encounter few if any infantry. Well, at least, that was the strategy of the cavalry units that chose to stay alive...
Dom Pedro II
Modder For Life
Animations are done. I have to do the palette and then the storyboards. Then compile the storyboads into the FLCs and el fin. It's the palette that's the bastard though... I plan to get it done tonight. Work's been rough the last few days and I've been tired. But tonight I will work on it.
LouLong
In love with Rei Ayanami
I must say I am quite surprised a gatling gun elephant existed. I have been on Asian elephants and as quiet as they may seem they can be easily frightened so a machine gun ON them.... ! I am puzzled.
Dom Pedro II
Modder For Life
Well, AFAIK, they were only used for the transportation of the guns.
LouLong
In love with Rei Ayanami
Good. Then the unit is correct but my logic is not put in check. 
BTW I have tried looking on the Chinese site Civnet for these numerous Chinese units but so far to no avail. Does not mean you must stop on your Korean units, though
BTW I have tried looking on the Chinese site Civnet for these numerous Chinese units but so far to no avail. Does not mean you must stop on your Korean units, though
Dom Pedro II
Modder For Life
I had no intention of stopping anything.
I looked over his previews, and everything looked pretty different from the previews I've shown. So it'll just mean more stuff for everybody to choose from
I looked over his previews, and everything looked pretty different from the previews I've shown. So it'll just mean more stuff for everybody to choose from
well, all things considered, ancient age Korean units could esilly pass for at least the northen branches of the ancient Chinese armies, considering that a sizabale portion of Korea was either a direct part, or a sub/tributary state of the Han empire (and I bet you all thought I was Euro-Centric in my learng....
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Dom Pedro II
Modder For Life
Not Euro-centric... just ego-centric...
Bóreas
The Wind of the North
Can I use your GG elephant on my mid XIX century scenario?
and by the way, is there a icon to go with it?
check my request post if you feel like a challenge
and by the way, is there a icon to go with it?
check my request post if you feel like a challenge
Dom Pedro II
Modder For Life
Well, there WILL be an icon to go with it when it's done. I haven't even started rendering it yet... these are just stuff I'm going to do at some point. But sure, you can use it for whatever. It's why I make 'em
Dom Pedro II
Modder For Life
Here's a preview of some ships I'm thinking about doing... I'm really not sure though since I think they may look too real for civ....
EDIT: Note, that these are not to scale.
Kindred72
Vampire
where do you guys find the time to do all these units? I'm kinda in semi-retirement right now as I've sorta lost interest ind civ.
embryodead
Caliph
How could you? I'm getting more and more interest with all new units being made, though I'm having less and less time
Gogf
Indescribable
I can't wait for the longship. It looks the best, IMO. PLEASE make it first of the ships!
hetairoi22
Of the House of Eorl
I agree with Gogf! The previews all look TERRIFIC Dom!
EDIT: Typo
EDIT: Typo
ShiroKobbure
Still modding Civ3
civ3c has a longboat
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