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Why not both
So.. This thing sounds just horrid to me. But like I said I have texture preferences that are not compatible with "put small chewy things into a cake-like thing". That's a showstopper right there, it just doesn't work. But hey at least they are trying! There's almonds and other fruit pieces in there, so it's less of a case of "99% cake with 1% undesirable weird texture nonsense thrown in", it's more like "hey here's a mix of some cake-like elements and a whole bunch of tougher chewy and crunchy elements thrown in. It's a party! " It tastes citrusy as well which I would find a bit distracting from all the weird textures. It also seems that you buy it for the texture. I buy cake for the texture (yeah see what i'm getting at), so when I bite into cake and get a completely non-cake like texture that I have to chew on, that's bad, it'd be like putting your hand into a gom jabbar box and there's wet food there. But if you buy a thing for the texture and it's a mix of cake and raisins and almonds and other junk, then that's a bit different. I would never go out of my way to buy such a monstrosity, but I can at least understand somebody wanting to buy something with a range and mix of textures like that. So I understand this thing a lot more than a cake with a handful of raisins thrown in.
I hope this explains my position on raisins a bit better. I used to eat raisins (embedded in nothing) just from a bag, as a kid. When you get a bag like that, you "sign up for" that texture. So it's fine. When I get cake, I want cake texture. In my mind raisins in cake is like ordering a cold coke, but it has chunks of something floating in it that are of a completely different composition than the thing you wanted. It ends on your tongue, you feel it with your tongue, and it just feels like it completely does not belong in the thing you ordered. Like you took a lady home from the bar and she has hooves and a sexual organ you've never seen or heard of before.
Isn't this how a cold coke would come, with chunks of ice in it?
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Not a fan of Black Forest cake? Or do you swallow the cherries whole if you find any within the cake, rather than on top of it?
I always found the worst offender in the "weird/disgusting stuff within other food" category to be bits of carrot and other vegetables encased within jello. Especially green jello. I could marginally forgive the red jello, since I don't mind cherry-flavored stuff. But holy crap, that whole thing is disgusting. Jello should just be jello. No bits of carrots or whatever else inside it, thankyouverymuch.
I had endless arguments with my mother when I'd refuse to eat that at family get-togethers. Apparently it was an "insult" to whoever made it, not to eat it (if the idea was to get people to eat carrots, just leave the carrots out; I like carrots either raw or cooked or in stews).
I can see it now:
Mohiam: Put your hand in the box.
Paul: What's in the box?
Mohiam: Something wet and icky and disgusting.
Paul (puts his hand in the box): AAUUUUGGGHHHHH!
(the rest of the scene plays out as normal, except the wet stuff in the box is extremely disgusting; Paul passes the test, as countless generations of female Bene Gesserit acolytes have passed over the millennia)
Um... that's an analogy I really don't want to think about...
There was a beverage that was sort of like pop, with bits of a jelly-like substance floating in it, back in the '90s. Don't ask me what it tasted like, because I never had any. Just imagine something that looks like colorless cream soda with soft gourmet jelly beans in it.
I hope not. Coke you get from a machine or cooler should not have ice in it, and if I have coke in a restaurant or fast food place I make sure not to have ice in it. For one thing, the ice just waters down the coke, and for another thing, ice-cold pop makes me cough. I drink my pop at room temperature most of the time.
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Good intuition on your part - I do indeed avoid the cherries. I eat around them. If one ends up in my mouth - not a huge deal, at least it's a cherry and not a dense mass that is a raisin.
This is sort of why it took me forever to warm up to apple pies.. Fruit inside of baked goods? NO THANKS.
HOWEVER, one day my boss (years ago now) took me to a restaurant to celebrate the conclusion to a project at work. He got us both apple pie for desert. I was too polite to speak up. BUT it was a mexican restaurant and the apple pie was deepfried somehow, with icecream, and caramel on top. It was amazing. Ever since then I've been more open to apple pies - although I will not seek them out. If I can get like a custard pie or something - that's a MUCH better option in my mind, since the textures are all nice and awesome.
I also don't like overly sweet things in my food, including desserts. I don't really like North American style cakes for this reason - where the icing tastes like it's pure sugar. What the hell, you can't eat that! Polish style birthday cakes are a lot better - the icing is sweet but it's reasonable. I'm actually the person semi-responsible to putting an end to birthday parties at work. We'd have like friggin 20+ birthday parties a year, and each one had super crazy sweet stupid north american style cake. And you're not obligated to eat, but there's this social pressure to participate, cause it's somebody's birthday. So unhealthy and unnecessary. So I suggested we try "birthday soup" instead, as a semi-joke. Instead this lead to a big conversation between people about what we can do, and we switched the system to pot luck style instead, and now we only do 1 birthday a month max, and bundle them together. But people go bored of this and now we don't really celebrate birthdays. It's all my fault and I'm semi proud of myself for contributing to the end of this insanity
Something like a cheery pie? Forget about it. It's sweet and sour AND the texture inside is weird and.. why bother even trying to eat that. Might as well eat a shoe
The big little bread of unskippable sweetness is awesome. Depending, exactly, on what fruit they put in. Cooking is an art and a craft.
But still I oppose sultanas in blood sausage and raisins in empanadas.
The cherry/chocolate combo is the whole point of Black Forest cake!
You're missing out on so many yummy things. Right now I have a regular-sized blueberry pie in my fridge, and several single-serving ones. I guess of all the pastry stuff in my fridge, you'd probably like the butter tarts, since they don't have a top shell and I opt for the ones with no raisins. I've also got a couple of single-serving banana creme pies in the fridge.
I'll concede that rhubarb pie is disgusting, but then rhubarb is disgusting. It may be nutritious, but my taste buds hate it.
The sweetness of the icing depends on the recipe or whatever commercial icing gets used. My grandmother made a cake one time that had icing so ungodly sweet that my child-self wouldn't eat it - and since I was a typical sugar-loving kid, that said something as to how overly sweet it was.
Actually, if you want to avoid a particular dessert due to sweetness, avoid Nanaimo bars. They may look fancy, and individual layers taste okay. But put it all together and you get maximum sugar overload (very bad for people who are prone to migraines as chocolate can be one of their trigger foods, and a diabetic person would be insane to even think about eating one of these things).
On the subject of birthdays... eventually in my family we didn't even bother with cakes unless my dad made one. He was an excellent cook and baker, so it was a treat when he'd make a cake. But things got to the point where nobody really felt like fussing much over birthdays or holidays, so we just got takeout - usually Chinese food.
There was one year when my mother was working at a hotel, and her birthday rolled around. Her co-workers gave her a pie with a candle stuck in it (pumpkin, I think).
And somewhere in my online photos, I kept the one someone on CFC gave me one year for my birthday: a potato with several candles in it (in honor of my former avatar, Spud).
Cherry pies are cheerful. The degree of sweet/sour and the texture depends on the recipe and how fresh it is at the time you eat it. The thing about cherry pies is that the cherries have no pits. Of course they're not going to be entirely cherry-shaped, and of course they're not going to be firm like raw cherries are.
BTW, further to my carrots-in-jello comment above. I was blanking on the other stuff my family used to put into jello, and I just remembered.
Fruit cocktail. Imagine green jello with bits of fruit cocktail and carrots in it. You don't like mushy cherries? I hate mushy grapes. Grapes go mushy in jello, and it's absolutely disgusting, both in taste and texture.
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I generally don’t have much coke in my apartment anymore since I closed down the blast furnace.
Rant: cold dry weather makes me feel like I have a cold, and dry.
Rant: cold dry weather makes me feel like I have a cold, and dry.
warpus
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You have to admit a black forest cake is a really good chocolate cake, though. I really like the way everything comes together - except for the cherries. If there was a cake like that without cherries, with icing that isn't too sweet, it would probably be my favourite cake. It seems that "chocolate cake" has lower standards. For whatever reason there's usually more effort put into making a black forest cake taste good, in terms of the cake, the chocolate, the icing, etc. It could just be me.
When I first saw butter tarts with raisins.. I just could not process what I was seeing. Butter tarts are so amazing, I love them. Putting raisins in them seems like a really bad idea. I am simply on a completely different page than people who enjoy butter tarts with raisins. This is not hyperbole. I really just can't understand how you can like something like that and to from my pov ruin a beautiful butter tart. Not a criticism of people who like this sort of thing, just an explanation of how it feels to me.
Blueberry pie.. I can taste it in my mouth.. it's sour and sweet. With a crust. And there is such an insane amount of the sweet and sour part. My taste buds are unable to compute that and result in anything resembling "I want to eat that"
I DO like to experiment with food though.. By that I mean.. I will go out of my way to try foods I've never had, foods I used to dislike, etc.
So I like apple pie now, and strawberries too.. within reason. A pie loaded up with lots of strawberries would be way too extreme for me. But like a fluffy cake with a couple strawberry slices here and there, I would eat that. I went out of my way to try a strawberry dessert in Norway.. after just hating strawberries my whole life. And I LOVED the dessert. So now I don't mind eating things with strawberries in them, unless like I said it's a crazy amount of them all in one place. Everything in its right balance please. Pies stuffed with sour and sweet globs of stuff aren't for me.
I still have no idea really how I am able to enjoy apple pie. I think about it and that sour taste hits me and I pull back right away. But I am able to order it and enjoy it, even without ice cream or caramel. If the crust is good, then I will eat a slice. It still seems like too much, but I will actually have a good time eating it.
Nanaimo bars are weird (to me). The first one I ever tried - I thought it was cheesecake. So.. At first I really disliked nanaimo bars, because each time I saw one I thought "I know what this is - it's NOT cheesecake". I don't even remember them being overly sweet, but I haven't had one in years now. I remember them just being.. well.. weird.. The texture isn't very nice and the flavour is okay. Doesn't seem like a thing that really needs to exist. But that's just my opinion
Homemade cakes are the best. Ofc depending on who the chef is, but they end up tasting so much better. My sisters usually buy their cakes from Italian bakeries, and those taste more like homemade cakes that are not nearly as sweet as the garbage you can get at a grocery store or whatever.
Sounds horrible haha. Might as well throw some raisins into the mix and put ketchup on it
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I don't think I've ever had it, but it seems to me that if it's served with ice cream I would try it
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I think the coffee I drink is causing me to feel ill in the morning. Trying to think of what a good replacement for it might be that doesn’t have too much sugar in it... I could go back to Diet Coke, but mm... hard-pressed to find a suitable alternative, one a little less nauseating in this season. Probably seasonal allergies just taking root as they do when we go from the long humid summer to the crisp autumn days.
So you like cake that's a combination of chocolate, cherries, and whipped cream, but hold the cherries. That's not actually Black Forest cake if it doesn't have all three ingredients.
My grandmother always had the kind with raisins, so it was news to me that you could have butter tarts without them.
Okay, your taste buds are definitely weird. The only time blueberries are sour is if they're not ripe. They are definitely a sweet fruit.
If you ever write a book about your travels (and you definitely should), the Vietnam chapter should be titled "Ode to Pho."
The taste of apple pie depends to a large extent what type of apple was used. Some varieties are definitely sweeter than others. In this way, apples and grapes are similar. If I were ever to whip up another batch of chocolate-coated grapes, I'd still use the green ones, because they're not as sweet as some others. You need the slight tartness of those to balance the sweetness of the chocolate. But for eating grapes by themselves, I prefer the red seedless.
Strawberries have to be at the exact stage of ripeness to be sweet rather than tart, and they need to be fresh. And they can't be mixed with rhubarb, because rhubarb is disgusting and contaminates everything it touches with its tartness.
How can Nanaimo bars be confused with cheesecake? Cheesecake doesn't have a solid chocolate layer on top.
Are you trying to make me upchuck?
They are, but they're extremely sweet.
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I got, for real, a YouTube ad for "detox foot patches" which of course use traditional Japanese herbal medicine. Now, the same ad also claimed that these patches were developed by, get this, Dr. Hiro Hiroki of a university in Tokyo (yes! they emphasized in). Was Dr. Bobert Bobson not available? Dr. Daniel Daniels?
Anyway we're only halfway down on this one. I go ahead and look at the website and do a little more digging, turns out the patches are just rebranded generic Chinese foot pads sold on Alibaba for one-tenth the price. The website is even more sinister because it runs a little javascript thing that pops up with "Mariel from Tsukuba just bought 2," then "Kirk from Yokohama just bought 3," etc. So the script at least knows what country I'm in even if it's too dumb to not have a separate table for uh, names. I'd feel bad for Kirk and Mariel for getting ripped off, but then I just need to remember that these people literally do not exist.
Just out of curiosity too I wanted to see how those foot pads were marketed here. Drugstore has them in the cosmetics section, sold with different scents for "tired feet" and vague and decidedly non-medical and wholly unregulated promises about feeling refreshed and happy. No toxins, no heavy metals, nothing like that. I think a close reading of it, maybe you kind of get adjacent to some pseudo-scientific woo, but given that they're not actually sold as any kind of cure for a disease or anything I think it is, well, if we're talking gray zones of ethics than maybe its HTML code would be #FAFAFA. Just slightly off-white. Eggshell. One other thing this company has is "Recognized by the FDA," but it doesn't say what it's recognized as...?
I thought about picking some up for myself and seeing how I felt afterwards, not that I expected any metals to come out of my body. Quite frankly, I'd rather have more metal in my body since I feel like the whole skin and bone thing isn't cutting it for economic valuation. Just like Gen. Ripper said, they're trying to sap us of our precious bodily metals. Speaking of sap, that's what's also in those pads (at least the Japanese-made ones.) It says so on the box. I thought about the lavender ones. Worst case scenario is my feet are sticky in the morning, I guess. I dunno.
Anyway we're only halfway down on this one. I go ahead and look at the website and do a little more digging, turns out the patches are just rebranded generic Chinese foot pads sold on Alibaba for one-tenth the price. The website is even more sinister because it runs a little javascript thing that pops up with "Mariel from Tsukuba just bought 2," then "Kirk from Yokohama just bought 3," etc. So the script at least knows what country I'm in even if it's too dumb to not have a separate table for uh, names. I'd feel bad for Kirk and Mariel for getting ripped off, but then I just need to remember that these people literally do not exist.
Just out of curiosity too I wanted to see how those foot pads were marketed here. Drugstore has them in the cosmetics section, sold with different scents for "tired feet" and vague and decidedly non-medical and wholly unregulated promises about feeling refreshed and happy. No toxins, no heavy metals, nothing like that. I think a close reading of it, maybe you kind of get adjacent to some pseudo-scientific woo, but given that they're not actually sold as any kind of cure for a disease or anything I think it is, well, if we're talking gray zones of ethics than maybe its HTML code would be #FAFAFA. Just slightly off-white. Eggshell. One other thing this company has is "Recognized by the FDA," but it doesn't say what it's recognized as...?
I thought about picking some up for myself and seeing how I felt afterwards, not that I expected any metals to come out of my body. Quite frankly, I'd rather have more metal in my body since I feel like the whole skin and bone thing isn't cutting it for economic valuation. Just like Gen. Ripper said, they're trying to sap us of our precious bodily metals. Speaking of sap, that's what's also in those pads (at least the Japanese-made ones.) It says so on the box. I thought about the lavender ones. Worst case scenario is my feet are sticky in the morning, I guess. I dunno.
You can block YT ads, y'know... unless the presenter makes it part of their presentation, of course. Shadiversity does that, but he incorporates it into whatever he's talking about, in a costumed skit.
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