Random Rants : Pissed tae th' gills

[PlutonianEmpire]

Horses are tied with dogs at the number one spot for my least favorite animals, even before I ever heard of that damned cartoon.

 

[ReindeerThistle]

Horses are tied with dogs at the number one spot for my least favorite animals, even before I ever heard of that damned cartoon.

Now you have my animal rescue friend (who IS armed) booking a flight to Minnesotastan to kick your arse!

My cousin, btw, works for a company that manufactures plane engines... so... just sayin'...

 

[Borachio]

Do your friends all have anger-management issues, Mr Thistle? They seem very ready to drop everything and leap into action on a whim.

 

[cardgame]

rain all day erry day until the weekend

 

[Wrymouth3]

so knowing Russian is a bonus for most if not all jobs.

Woohoo! Thank goodness I took enough of it in college .

 

[Phrossack]

Call it being a farmer from a county with a processing plant. If you qualify yourself and not-batshat insane, and not hateful, I'll care out an exception from my generalization about the culture of hay-burner worship.

So you're utterly hostile to equestrians because they object to the slaughter of the animals they've come to know and love? Sheesh. I can't begin to fathom that.

Horses are tied with dogs at the number one spot for my least favorite animals, even before I ever heard of that damned cartoon.

That's because you hate literally everything other than blue aliens.

Spoiler :

And before you roll your eyes and claim that I'm claiming to be superior to you: I'm not. I'm not saying anything about myself, my talents, or my lack thereof.

 

[Joecoolyo]

So you're utterly hostile to equestrians because they object to the slaughter of the animals they've come to know and love? Sheesh. I can't begin to fathom that.

I don't think there's much wrong with loving your cake, and eating it too.

Though I've heard horse isn't very good.

EDIT: nvm, it was probably in poor taste

 

[Farm Boy]

So you're utterly hostile to equestrians because they object to the slaughter of the animals they've come to know and love? Sheesh. I can't begin to fathom that.

Newp. I have absolutely no problem with people not selling their horses for processing. That's awesome, good on 'em!

But, when they manage to shut down, either through misguided statutes or outright violence the few processing plants for people who do want to process their horses, without doing it either haphazardly and illegally on their own, or shipping them over rail to Mexico to slaughter yards with far worse controls, or to slowly and painfully die because the owner can't afford incredibly expensive end-of-life care for a horse(to which the response I usually get is some nose-in-the-air "then ooooobviously that person can't affooooord to have a hooooorse in the first place!"<adjust monocle and sniff>), then yes - at that point I have massive irreconcilable differences with that specific type of "equestrian."

 

[Phrossack]

Newp. I have absolutely no problem with people not selling their horses for processing. That's awesome, good on 'em!

But, when they manage to shut down, either through misguided statutes or outright violence the few processing plants for people who do want to process their horses, without doing it either haphazardly and illegally on their own, or shipping them over rail to Mexico to slaughter yards with far worse controls, or to slowly and painfully die because the owner can't afford incredibly expensive end-of-life care for a horse(to which the response I usually get is some nose-in-the-air "then ooooobviously that person can't affooooord to have a hooooorse in the first place!"<adjust monocle and sniff>), then yes - at that point I have massive irreconcilable differences with that specific type of "equestrian."

You did say that you despised American horse culture, which sounds like it includes all people who own, ride, and like horses. That's a LOT of people, and not all of them are as you say they are. And I think there's a difference between killing a dying horse and breeding hundreds of thousands of them for the sole purpose of slaughter. Which is what these plants are for, or at least lead to.

On a sincerely unrelated note, I fudging' hate bitter sarcasm used during an argument, and people who, when arguing, do not take any kind of stance but instead just shoot down other people's ideas. And there are a lot of such people. They don't believe in anything, don't stand for anything, just pick apart arguments for sport and leave them lying dead there, like a cat that kills a rabbit and leaves it to rot in the sun without taking so much as a bite.

 

[Takhisis]

Aside from the fact that Russian tourism is becoming a huge source of economic activity (they do come and buy lots and lots of stuff, whether they need it or not), so knowing Russian is a bonus for most if not all jobs, it's because Arab classes are too early in the morning and there wasn't any other fancy, exotic language with an original alphabet. Except for Hebrew, but I am somehow more interested in Russian. So Russian.

Why don't you learn the quaint little tongue of the locals so you can translate? You Spaniards have learnt weirder languages than Catalan.

I'm going to guess that in your particular case, it's a matter of having taken the wrong turn down the rule 34 path one evening. Don't follow the lights.

No. Nonononono, no. No Rule 34 for MLP, I've hated them since my childhood.

Also, Tak, please qualify that it is cartoon MLP equicide, because my horse-riding cousin is booking a flight to Argentinistan to kick your ass!

He'll have to kick through my chair because I'm not getting up.

Also, mortadella is one of the best foodstuffs there is.

Heheh, I forgot how much I detest American Horse Culture(insofar as that is actually a thing). That horse processing plant in northern Illinois needs to be re-permitted and re-certified as of like a decade ago. Then it needs protected from all the idgit animal terrorists that were perpetually trying to light it on fire.

Why dont' 'Muricans eat horse meat? It's part of traditional Germanic culture.

Do your friends all have anger-management issues, Mr Thistle? They seem very ready to drop everything and leap into action on a whim.

They're Communist revolutionaries who haven't realised the Cold War against 'Murica ended in defeat a couple decades ago.

 

[Farm Boy]

breeding hundreds of thousands of them for the sole purpose of slaughter. Which is what these plants are for, or at least lead to.

Ungh. They lied to you. If you are talking about anything within the last 20 years, there were less than dozen in the US at all. I'm thinking there were 2 or 3 for most of the time, and they were nothing resembling a huge plant. Horses are not animals with a compelling profit margin on raising for slaughter. Some niche raising may have been done for that due to there being some communities that like horse meat, but is not, and has not been in recent memory anything near that widespread. Even if it was, it's a horse. Just like a cow is a cow. Do I demand anyone eat their pet cow? No I do not. I would be pissed if somebody demanded I eat my pet cow, or horse. But keep your nose out of my life if I do decide to eat my cow, or horse, aight?

 

[ReindeerThistle]

Do your friends all have anger-management issues, Mr Thistle? They seem very ready to drop everything and leap into action on a whim.

They're Communist revolutionaries who haven't realised the Cold War against 'Murica ended in defeat a couple decades ago.

No, my cousin is not so angry an activist as to drop everything and kick anybodyt's arse.

My animal activist friend may, though.

And, Tak, neither are Communist revolutionaries... yet!

 

[Phrossack]

Ungh. They lied to you. If you are talking about anything within the last 20 years, there were less than dozen in the US at all. I'm thinking there were 2 or 3 for most of the time, and they were nothing resembling a huge plant. Horses are not animals with a compelling profit margin on raising for slaughter. Some niche raising may have been done for that due to there being some communities that like horse meat, but is not, and has not been in recent memory anything near that widespread. Even if it was, it's a horse. Just like a cow is a cow. Do I demand anyone eat their pet cow? No I do not. I would be pissed if somebody demanded I eat my pet cow, or horse. But keep your nose out of my life if I do decide to eat my cow, or horse, aight?

I hope you're right; in France, they do breed horses for slaughter. That's where I draw the line. It's almost a quarter as sickening to me as raising dogs for slaughter, as they do in Korea. I suppose eating or selling your own horse isn't so bad if it's old or something.

 

[Borachio]

And yet pigs, who incidentally are said to be more intelligent than dogs, are fine to eat?

I'm getting an impression of a lot of cultural bias going on here. Not that I don't eat pigs. And I, myself, do not eat dogs. Nor would I care to.

 

[Takhisis]

What's the difference between killing cows and killing horses?

No, my cousin is not so angry an activist as to drop everything and kick anybodyt's arse.

My animal activist friend may, though.

And, Tak, neither are Communist revolutionaries... yet!

You haven't used Neural Suction on them yet?

 

[Farm Boy]

Correct about pigs and relative intelligence. I have no problems with societies that eat dogs. By that token I have no problems with societies that eat cats, which are less intelligent yet. Despite the fact that seeing barrels of cats ready for processing does make me want to vomit, or cry, or both. But then I put my big boy pants on and try to see it objectively rather than whine about shutting them down(not saying you are doing that Prossack, I think you aren't. But our exchange began with my rant about the people who do, and did). Mr. B hits it spot on with the cultural bit.

 

[PlutonianEmpire]

Now you have my animal rescue friend (who IS armed) booking a flight to Minnesotastan to kick your arse!

My cousin, btw, works for a company that manufactures plane engines... so... just sayin'...

I've got "connections" that will give you and/or your friends your least favorite weather. Destructive weather included... so... just sayin'...

Spoiler :

That's because you hate literally everything other than blue aliens.

Spoiler :

And before you roll your eyes and claim that I'm claiming to be superior to you: I'm not. I'm not saying anything about myself, my talents, or my lack thereof.

TBH, I've been considering conceding to Bronies lately, considering my opposition to them is rather hypocritical, since I've always believed people should be able to love whatever they darn well please regardless of how others think. Especially since a) Avatar is one of my fave movies, b) Titanic (from the same guy, w/ Leo DiCaprio and Kate Winslet) is also one of my favorite movies, along with Armageddon.

Yeah, I personally don't like MLP, but I tire of cussing and whining about it, and of being a huge douchebag about it.

So there. I'm done.

 

[Phrossack]

Correct about pigs and relative intelligence. I have no problems with societies that eat dogs. By that token I have no problems with societies that eat cats, which are less intelligent yet. Despite the fact that seeing barrels of cats ready for processing does make me want to vomit, or cry, or both. But then I put my big boy pants on and try to see it objectively rather than whine about shutting them down(not saying you are doing that Prossack, I think you aren't. But our exchange began with my rant about the people who do, and did). Mr. B hits it spot on with the cultural bit.

I don't base my views of animal consumption on the intelligence of the animals consumed alone. Horses may not seem all that intelligent, but after forming good working relationships and even friendships with them based on mutual trust, I can't imagine killing and eating them. When riding for a while, especially at a canter or taking tight turns through obstacles, you and the horse get such a feel for each other that you move almost as one. They can eventually predict your most likely command and do it before you even ask them to do it. You also come to learn to respect one another, to learn each other's personalities, and to trust each other. One of the horses I used to ride was a cantankerous old boy with arthritis who really did not want to have to carry me around, but we eventually learned to work together just fine. He obeyed me most of the time, and I tried not to overexert him and tried to keep the flies off him. Riders more experienced than I am would have a better knowledge of this, but still, it's clear that trust is crucial to a riding relationship. There are plenty of accounts throughout history of horses doing things for their riders like willingly leaping off cliffs or charging into spears and bayonets in battle. A horse without a rider would never do such suicidal things, but they can learn to trust their riders enough to obey without hesitation. So I'm pretty uneasy with the idea of killing horses.

The slaughter of dogs, meanwhile, is absolutely beyond the pale for me. In exchange for a little bit of the same lousy food every day, some water, a roof to live under, and a scratch behind the ears, dogs will become selflessly devoted and loving towards their masters. They'll greet you with more enthusiasm than most people, and are overjoyed to have some kind of job to do. Military dogs will charge into battle to defend their masters as surely as any soldier, will willingly jump out of a plane if their masters hold onto them, and will throw down their lives to save the people they love. Dogs will do damn near anything for us, and will trust us with their lives (but not their rawhides; that crosses a line!). The vast majority of dogs I've met have treated me extremely well, and I can't always say the same of people. To take such a loving, loyal, eager friend and servant and kill it, gut it, and eat it is just sickening and wrong. And if people like me want to protest such slaughter and get it to stop through legal changes, that is their right.

 

[Farm Boy]

Sometimes things that are definitely within your rights are still wrongs.

 

[Phrossack]

Sometimes things that are definitely within your rights are still wrongs.

So if people disagree with the slaughter of animals and want to end it, they're morally wrong?