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Says the man from a country that still has lords and royals.... :mischief:

Even the might of your republic's scholars have not mastered the art of speaking Greek, so you're still barbarians, regardless of what our nobles and monarchs are up to. :)

Fries are the things that if served with fried fish would be called chips.

And you say that we're inconsistent. In this country, chips are chips and crisps and crisps and ne'er the twain shall meet. :p
 
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Thought so.

Now, about crisps...

Those are those almost circular things that come flavoured in bags, and which when you work out the price per kilogram means the manufacturers are just printing money for themselves?

Right?
 
Probably a regional thing, because cheddar is unusual for me to find.

@shadowplay stereotype less, ketchup chips sound gross as hell and I've never even heard of them let alone seen them

It's one of the standard flavours up here. It's good.

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I pronounce it as b'narl, but not because of some supposed American prudity.
 
Since when has that ever mattered in English? Besides, it's more of a long A, as in Bath or path or vase, than it is ar, but the only other alternative is posting IPA and that's not very approachable.
 
At least it's not a common word.
 
Question for US residents:

You walk into a convenience store. What are the standard flavours of Lays potato chips that are always available? Exclude limited edition and regional varieties.
Question from Alberta: What are the standard flavors you get?

It annoys me so much that I go to London Drugs' website and there are all these intriguing flavors of Lay's chips... and they're not available here. Not in the store, nor can they be ordered online.

Here, the flavors I can expect to order from my local Co-op include:

Classic
BBQ
Sour Cream & Onion
Ketchup
Dill Pickle
Salt & Vinegar
Sea Salt & Pepper
Bacon

I'm probably forgetting two or three; I think there's one that includes cheddar, and there's a ripple one. At times the company tries out two or three new flavors to see what's popular, so I've had cinnamon-flavored (LOVED THEM! - so of course they were discontinued), there were maple-flavored ones (don't recall getting to try those), and some others.

I know Lay's makes a couple of flavors I used to be able to get when the company was Hostess: Fried Chicken, and Fries & Gravy. And way back in the '70s, Hostess had the most wonderful pizza-flavored chips - far superior to the current ones that Pringles has (which in turn are not as good as they used to make). But Fried Chicken and Fries & Gravy are not available here. They're listed online, but are not available for ordering, and they're not in the local store. The local store says it "can't" order any in.

...ketchup chips sound gross as hell and I've never even heard of them let alone seen them
Ketchup chips' flavor is predominantly tomato, vinegar, with something sweet to balance the vinegar (some brands are sweeter than others). They're messy to eat (your fingertips will get red), but quite tasty. Think of them as sweet & sour tomatoes, and don't eat too many at once, or you'll be reaching for something to drink. In this region I can get ketchup-flavored chips in Lays, Old Dutch, and Pringles.

Midwest and salt/vinegar is my absolute favorite by a mile
What is "Midwest"? :confused:

And you say that we're inconsistent. In this country, chips are chips and crisps and crisps and ne'er the twain shall meet. :p
Unless you get ketchup-flavored vegetable "crisps" that are shaped like french fries (it's something Walmart sells; they're okay if a person is really desperate, but nothing I'd care to have on a regular basis).

Take your pick.

Up here in the Great White North, everyone I've spoken to says it as bay-nul. I say it that way too.
I've never heard it pronounced "bay-nul."

I've heard it pronounced "bah-NAL."

Since when has that ever mattered in English? Besides, it's more of a long A, as in Bath or path or vase, than it is ar, but the only other alternative is posting IPA and that's not very approachable.
There is no "long a" in bath or path (if there were, we'd be saying "bayth" or "payth"). I'll concede "vase" but only because we pronounce it "vayse" instead of "vahz".

The above paragraph applies to Canadian English, of course (at least what I've heard). Once you get into the Maritimes and Newfoundland, the regional accents out there make some words sound really odd to Western Canadian ears.
 
Northerners tend to have short As in bath or path, but I don't (clearly my Southern upbringing!). Plastic has a short A though. :)
 
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/banal
I think Norway and the rest of the world have conflicting tastes in potato chips/crisps. I've never tasted any chips I really liked abroad.

I like something with a bit of character to it.

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Be a man and learn how to fry your own potatoes, then come here and learn how to use fried potatoes as ingredients for decent meals.
They're called "crisps", you barbarians.
Says the man from a country that still has lords and royals.... :mischief:
Hopefully the English chip will be removed from the Scottish shoulder some time.
 
At least it's not a common word.
Seems pretty banal to me.

On occasion, it's the only one that fits.

And yeah.


Though the number of times I've had to use the phrase "American banal" in real life probably number in the zeros.

Appropriate, on reflection, as it may seem now.

Spoiler :
LOL.. No, I don't really mean that.
 
Be a man and learn how to fry your own potatoes, then come here and learn how to use fried potatoes as ingredients for decent meals.
You what? I've fried many a potato in my time. Though never flakes of chips. But the secret as far as I understand it, is to deep fry them at a relatively low heat for a longer time.
 
You what? I've fried many a potato in my time. Though never flakes of chips. But the secret as far as I understand it, is to deep fry them at a relatively low heat for a longer time.

Yes. That lower temperature is necessary
Commercial flake chips are mostly made by a continuous process whereby the oil stays at high temperature and the water in the potatoe evaporates rapidly.

Kettle chips and for that matter home made flake chips are made batch wise, whereby adding the cold chips to the oil lowers the oil temperature at first
The net effect of that is that the starch in the potatoe gets the time to dissolve in the water still left in the potatoe at the beginning. The differed starch leads to another caramelising (maillard reaction) flavor as well.

Kettle chips in clarified butter (ghee) are superb :)
 
Are they?

How do they compare to chips fried in beef dripping?

Beef dripping has a higher melting temperature than butter, so your chips feel less fatty in your fingers.
I prefer the taste of butter.
Traditional for normal chips (like french fries or fish & chips) is beef dripping, tastes good and more crispy than oils, the price is lower than butter.
 
I can't imagine deep frying chips in just plain butter.

But I guess ghee is OK.

The Chinese fish and chip shops round here seem to favour peanut oil. At least I think it's peanut oil.

It doesn't give an effect that I like.

Though their chips are definitely better than "normal" fish and chip shop chips. Which are plain awful. I agree that beef dripping is a good product to fry chips in. But they do something else with the chips beforehand that makes them really unpalatable. At least, to me.
 
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