[R&F] Rise and Fall General Discussion Thread

[marius_kaparius]

I did as well. I was surprised with this reaction. Nice trailer.

I choked up too.

 

[Uberfrog]

Well this looks pretty interesting. If they pull it off, that sort of dynamic golden/dark age system could really help with the Civ series' perennial problem of mid-to-late game going through the motions.

I'm excited, and also excited to see it coming out so soon...

 

[blackbutterfly]

Santa Monica Pier, too.

Or Brighton pier?

It doesn't look like an entire district. TBH IDK how you could build an arena and a stadium on a pier. So maybe a wonder? Or it's possibly an improvement.

 

[Vahnstad]

I see a natural wonder from Venezuela, mount Roraima

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

Entertainment Complex looking district over water.
Hydro Power Plant in Ocean?
Purple Building District. Can't tell what it could be. Maybe Government related like a Congress House.
Looks like I see a park just south of city center in second picture. Maybe an improvement.
New palace for Russia?

 

[SupremacyKing2]

This expansion looks freaking AMAZING!!! Golden and Dark Ages are a great mechanic from rise and fall of civs. One civ might rise through a golden age while other civs fall because they are in a dark age. Love governors that can boost cities. Loyalty mechanic is great. We can finally flip cities again! Better alliances and more. etc... Firaxis sure goes all out with expansions!

 

[Phoenix1595]

I am curious about what was being built in the beginning of the video. It looked like some sort of Classical Era dam or canal. I know of the Marib Dam in Yemen would fit the time period, but the forested hills in the background wouldn't make sense. Does anyone else have any guesses?

 

[Liufeng]

Source?

My impressions after watching the trailer ... but it seems it's not the case, bit rather the golden and dark ages thing.

 

[blackbutterfly]

What about the Buddha statue? Gifu? It definitely looks like a wonder.

 

[Larsenex]

I am excited as well for the expansion! Looking forward to more information!

 

[JacquesBquick]

Mongolia and/or the Huns seem exceptionally likely based on the trailer....though remember winged hussars were in the vanilla trailer but poland was a DLC so don't get too worked up.

Otherwise I'm not seeing tons of hints at new civs and leaders in the trailer. Egypt, Rome, China, Nazi Germany, France, and the US were all directly referenced. perhaps the 9th leader is for one of those civs.

 

[Onii-chan]

Oh boi bring on the hype I guess

Sick trailer. Now to read through the changes..

 

[Cerilis]

Looks like we now know what Ed researched with the Berlin Wall.

 

[Haig]

New features sound cool! More challenge and more unique playthroughs!

A Question:
Does "nine new leaders and eight new civs" include the leaders of the new civs?
Or is it eight new civs and nine new leaders for old civs?

 

[Mr Jon of Cheam]

I thought the trailer was pretty silly but from the details so far, this sounds AMAZING! Exactly what I was hoping for, almost as though they've been reading my mind. It will be hard to balance but I have faith!

 

[Benzombie]

It seems like those 9 leaders are part of the new civs, that's a little bit of a shame for me but I'm still excited. Though it still ponders me why they would say the amount of both civs and leaders when new civs always come with one leader, kind of redundant.

 

[Cymsdale]

They say it's not rubber banding, but it kind of is, but I'm totally OK with that. 4X games need some rubber banding.

 

[sonicmyst]

I am a bit concerned about the impact of the new alliance systems to the pace of the game.

 

[nzcamel]

No mention of a Hall of Fame though . . . . . . . . .

Gah!!

And this:

'We also ask ourselves some core questions as we select potential leaders:

• “Is this region of the world represented?”
• “Is this time in history represented?”
• “Is this represented/revered in previous Civilization games or totally new?”'

I don't care! Much. Give me the very best that we know of dammit.

 

[seancolorado]

It seems like those 9 leaders are part of the new civs, that's a little bit of a shame for me but I'm still excited. Though it still ponders me why they would say the amount of both civs and leaders when new civs always come with one leader, kind of redundant.

Because saying 8 civs and 1 new leader would make less sense