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Yes the second one. It would work without problems, but there might be a better solution.
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Rise of Asia
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Sword_Of_Geddon
Arbiter of the Sword
Alright I believe(believe) that the installation problems are over now, so I'm back in.
Whats up Shiro?
Whats up Shiro?
Blue Monkey
Archon Without Portfolio
I'm working on the Bamboo terrain (probably about 10-20 hours of actual work from being ready to show), but in the meantime here's a treat to maybe inspire a unit - an early 20th photo of a couple of Balinese wearing traditional armour:
View attachment 141513
I've got other photos and graphics of armour and links, mostly of South Asian (Indian) but some for Indianized SE Asia if anyone is interested.
View attachment 141513
I've got other photos and graphics of armour and links, mostly of South Asian (Indian) but some for Indianized SE Asia if anyone is interested.
Blue Monkey
Archon Without Portfolio
not props, photos and links to informational websites. Sorry, just concepts and inspiration.
Sword_Of_Geddon
Arbiter of the Sword
I agree, both those places are under-populated. Its a shame DPII left when he did, because he had a ton of Thai units planned...darnit..darn Civ4
ShiroKobbure
Still modding Civ3
the internet is down at my house, so I will try to spend the time working on models for poser. We have basically 4 cultures, so I will do the attack for a unit like spearman, then just change the clothing for each culture.
I may not post for awhile.
Right now Im at school so I can post.
I may not post for awhile.
Right now Im at school so I can post.
Blue Monkey
Archon Without Portfolio
A lot of what I've gathered is just random bookmarked links. I promise to post some later tonight or tomorrow. I just want it to look more organized than a screen dump of a google search.
Here's a small glimpse of the kind of stuff I've found.
PS to SoG: You're on the right track, but Public vs. Private is key, there's three (3) threads involved, and it involves more than one person.
Here's a small glimpse of the kind of stuff I've found.
PS to SoG: You're on the right track, but Public vs. Private is key, there's three (3) threads involved, and it involves more than one person.
ShiroKobbure
Still modding Civ3
My internet is fixed ^o^
Should SE's early units be the same as India's? Because most of SE Asia was Hindu Kingdoms.
like Warrior, Tribesman, Archer, and Swordsman
Should SE's early units be the same as India's? Because most of SE Asia was Hindu Kingdoms.
like Warrior, Tribesman, Archer, and Swordsman
Virote_Considon
The Great Dictator
What I've done for my small Asian scenario, is I've made an excel spreadsheet. On this, I've listed each generic version of a unit, and then each unit that replaces it for:
The Persian civs (in my scenario, this is Persia, Mughal, Turkestan)
India (sometimes includes Nepal. Includes all other Indian states, and Sri Lanka)
South-East Asia (Includes Siam, Khmer, Vietnam, Burma and various other civs).
China (Sometimes includes Tibet)
Koria
Japan
Nomadic Civs (Mongols, Huns, Wako, Orang Laut, sometimes Turkestan and Tibet)
There is a lot of overlap with units, but just so I don't have the same unit replacing 2 units, I'm OK.
I can give you the list of which units I have so far (for the scenarios 1st era- the Tech Tree was basically a rough, shamless stick-together of the Sengoku tree, the Mughals tree and the origional Civ3 tree).
The Persian civs (in my scenario, this is Persia, Mughal, Turkestan)
India (sometimes includes Nepal. Includes all other Indian states, and Sri Lanka)
South-East Asia (Includes Siam, Khmer, Vietnam, Burma and various other civs).
China (Sometimes includes Tibet)
Koria
Japan
Nomadic Civs (Mongols, Huns, Wako, Orang Laut, sometimes Turkestan and Tibet)
There is a lot of overlap with units, but just so I don't have the same unit replacing 2 units, I'm OK.
I can give you the list of which units I have so far (for the scenarios 1st era- the Tech Tree was basically a rough, shamless stick-together of the Sengoku tree, the Mughals tree and the origional Civ3 tree).
Sword_Of_Geddon
Arbiter of the Sword
ShiroKobbure said:
I don't see a problem with that. Its later, when India gets Muslemafied, and move away from the Brahamic culture, that they really deverge.
ShiroKobbure
Still modding Civ3
Ok, I am going to start on Swordsman
I think the Japanese Swordsman Utah made can work for Japan and Korea, maybe China too, what do you think?
If not please post links for a Chinese swordsman 300bc~500ad
Indian/ SE Asian
http://www.dbaol.com/images/faces/1520_face.jpg
Steppes
http://www.dbaol.com/images/faces/840_face.jpg
I think the Japanese Swordsman Utah made can work for Japan and Korea, maybe China too, what do you think?
If not please post links for a Chinese swordsman 300bc~500ad
Indian/ SE Asian
http://www.dbaol.com/images/faces/1520_face.jpg
Steppes
http://www.dbaol.com/images/faces/840_face.jpg
Virote_Considon
The Great Dictator
The Japanese one would, IMO work for the Chinese, too, although I'm not the one to know.
Hasn't SoG already made the Indian Swordsman? I'm sure he has.
Finally, could you use either DPII's "Hun" or R8XFT's "Hun" for the Steppes swordsman?
Hasn't SoG already made the Indian Swordsman? I'm sure he has.
Finally, could you use either DPII's "Hun" or R8XFT's "Hun" for the Steppes swordsman?
Virote_Considon
The Great Dictator
Sorry to double post, but Blue_Monkey, I've just had imported the rules from my scenario (although I did not put the resources on), and from a gameplay perspective, I like.
I got a random civ (Pegu), which is one of the more... unlucky civs due to starting position in my scenario. In the game, I had a small war with Burma (completely defensive, honest!) and erm... realised that one of the island civs (forget their name) started on terrain where they couldn't build any cities (fault of the mod- I'd accidently imported the terrain settings along, too!).
A quick suggestion that I have, is that I think there needs to be more jungle around India and Bangladesh, and maybe a little more around South-East Asia.
I got a random civ (Pegu), which is one of the more... unlucky civs due to starting position in my scenario. In the game, I had a small war with Burma (completely defensive, honest!) and erm... realised that one of the island civs (forget their name) started on terrain where they couldn't build any cities (fault of the mod- I'd accidently imported the terrain settings along, too!).
A quick suggestion that I have, is that I think there needs to be more jungle around India and Bangladesh, and maybe a little more around South-East Asia.
Ogedei_the_Mad
Caffeinated Khagan
For simplicity's sake, I'd use it for Hanzhao as well. However, Chinese soldiers appear quite different from the "Asian Swordsman" unit.
Sculpture of a Chinese soldier from the Han Dynasty:
Simply imagine this guy holding a sword and you'll get the idea.
Sculpture of a Chinese soldier from the Han Dynasty:
Simply imagine this guy holding a sword and you'll get the idea.
Blue Monkey
Archon Without Portfolio
I have not posted the images/links as promised because I've spent time the last two days with a friend in the hospital but I'll be working tonight and tomorrow to get something in shape, although it probably won't be posted until late Saturday.
@Shirou: in "Warriors of Heaven and Earth", set in Tang Dynasty, the nomads/bad guys are called Turks and they wear armour a lot like that image you posted although with a turban and face covering.
@Shirou: in "Warriors of Heaven and Earth", set in Tang Dynasty, the nomads/bad guys are called Turks and they wear armour a lot like that image you posted although with a turban and face covering.
Thanks for the feedback on the map as it stands; it's the first I've gotten. I was so worried about placing too much jungle that I may have been a little conservative. It's important to play with the terrain rules of our biq, so that the LM Hills behave properly; otherwise the Himalayas are not too impressive a barrier.Virote_Considon said:
Virote_Considon
The Great Dictator
Yeh. My biq has some terrain settings, but all they do is:
-LM Hills now produce 0 food, 2 sheilds
-LM Plains now 2 food, 1 sheild (For areas within the Himalayas).
-Desert now +1 movement cost, impassable to "Wheeled"
-Tundra "---------------------------------------------"
-Forests now don't allow cities
Also, you shouldn't worry about placing too many jungles- if there are lots of jungles there in real life, then it's best to place them there to begin with! If this becomes too un-balancing, or even un-fun, then jungles can be converted to forests afterwards.
-LM Hills now produce 0 food, 2 sheilds
-LM Plains now 2 food, 1 sheild (For areas within the Himalayas).
-Desert now +1 movement cost, impassable to "Wheeled"
-Tundra "---------------------------------------------"
-Forests now don't allow cities
Also, you shouldn't worry about placing too many jungles- if there are lots of jungles there in real life, then it's best to place them there to begin with! If this becomes too un-balancing, or even un-fun, then jungles can be converted to forests afterwards.
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