Rnes5: To Trust a Thief. Board NES

[RoddyVR]

To Rome
From Austria

You misevaluate the situation. Let me clear up the situation for you (and anyone else interested to know).
1. early on you took a territory next to our capitol. THAT is aggressive. we could not do anything about it, so decided not to raise a stink about it, and risk your army attacking our capitol.
2. once we could, we took the territory from you and secured our capitol's safety. We then told you that we did not want to persue the war any further. For 2 turns after that, we maintained a force on the border equal to what you could attack with, so as not to risk an attack, but not threaten one either. even though we could have kept on our offencive.
3. you now think you've got the upper hand. you dont.
you cant attack us "safely". you have a total of 11 armies that can attack territory 33. we could BUILD that many there this turn if needed, not to mention the ones we have there and next to there already. you can attack territory 42 with a total of 4 armies, again easily repelled.
4. remember that since you have very limited resourses, you cant at the same time as your attack build up a good defence. so if we decide to launch an attack on you the same time you will loose territories. we also have more money then you and could just trade more, and crush you next turn with a huge army.
so dont get cocky before you evaluate the WHOLE situation.

5. this is not to mention that your sea shores are completely undefended and a single ship with a few armies on it could take half your nation.


To Turkey
From Austria
(i know Finmaster aint here, but just for the record type thing).

As you may have noticed, we've attacked your lands. The reasonings for this were as follows:
1. Russia asked for help.
2. If you and Norway had succeded in your conquest of Russia, you might have turned your armies towards us.
3. Couldnt realy trust you too much, as you've stolen from us (you'll pardon me for not believing your "friend gave it to us" story).
4. you presented a very vulnerable peice of land to us, that combined with the other factors made too juicy a target.


To Africa
From Austrai

Dear Founder and Fellow member of AFTA.

We would like to ask for your help in convincing Rome to not continue a bloody war with us. As you can see from above he cannot realy win, but his aggression can cost both of us significant resourses and lives.
We hope that your cooperation with him on the city in 26 combined with the fleet you've got on his shores will give you enough influence over him to convince him to concentrate his efforts on improving his nations economy instead of persuing useless wars.

 

[Sgt.Hellfish]

Rule Britannia, Britannia rules the waves da da da da...

 

[RoddyVR]

it has now been 3 days since the update. as of right now i have NO order for this turn.
NONE
from ANYONE
AT ALL.

i wasnt gonna hurry this turn cause finmaster is away for the week and it's gonna suck doing orders for both austria and turkey, but at this point its getting rediculous.
start getting orders in, or i'm gonna start worrying.
and you do NOT want me to start worrying! do you?

 

[tossi]

orders sent.

 

[Jason The King]

hold out longer, i want him to worry.

 

[tossi]

who didn´t send orders?

 

[gruban]

I think that's like asking "everyone not here, please raise your hands".

 

[erez87]

I didn't... I should...
Carthage, don't forget the 2 gold

 

[RoddyVR]

arg. i go for the weekend, prety much dont log in here at all (well, i did once, but only for a sec) and i STILL only have 4 orders.

Finmaster should be back today. as soon as i get his orders, i'm doing the update. the other 3 of you that aint sent orders had a WEEK already. so those i dont have orders for before Finmaster sends his are gonna be screwed, i'm just gonna bank your gold and not do ANYTHING for your nations. a WEEK for crying out loud.

 

[RoddyVR]

ok, at this point i still need orders from Germany (gladinia) and Turkey (finmaster).

Finmaster is theoreticaly just comming back today from Hungary, so i'm waiting for his orders for now (since we've not done an update for a week, we can wait for a few hours).
But Gladinia has had a week, so if i get Finmaster's orders first, germany is standing still for a turn. call it a race

 

[Finmaster]

from turkey
To Rome:
We suggest that we destroy Austria and divide their lands.

***

orders send.

 

[RoddyVR]

ok, update in a couple hours.
welcome back Finmaster, glad you had a good time in Hungary.
didnt get orders from Gladinia, which sucks, cause germany has way more units then tax income, so its going under economicaly.

Finmaster, the cheap prices in Hungary must have gotten you confused, you cant get armies for 1 gold a peice. had to shrink all the expences in your orders a little. will explain in more detail in the PM.

Battles
Undefended conquests - 17, 62.

Territory 45 - Spain 6 vs Africa 4
The newly African built city is quickly attacked by the spanish, who take back their territory with minimal casualties.

Territory 33 - Rome 10 vs Austria 6
The Romans attack full force and easily wipe out the newly recruited Austrian army.

Territory 43 - Turkey 6 vs Austria 1
Another shamefull defeat for the Austrians on their own homelands.

Territory 47 - Austria 1 vs Turkey 2
This Austrian gamble didnt work as well as hoped because the territory had defences. But considering it did have defences, nothing better then the outcome could be hoped for. The single Austrian Army was able to take out both Turkish armies before being wiped out.

Territory 55 - Austria 2 vs Turkey 4
The Austrians had hoped to squeeze the Turks between themselves and a Russian attack force, but that didnt happen. The Austrians were completely routed.

Territory 68 - Britain 2 vs Norway 1
The British landed and successfully took the territory.

econ in a few.

Country	Gold	Size
Britain	 172 	 13 
France	   6 	 17 
Spain	  -4	  4 
Africa	  68 	 25 
Rome	   7 	 17 
Turkey	  21 	 13 
Russia	  -1	  9 
Norway	  72 	 15 
Germany	   4 	 14 
Austria	   1 	 11

 

[erez87]

YAY

to Austria:
You have been defeated.
Rome will soon win more battles, and with our much stronger economy we will win.
But we do not want the Austrian people to have no homelands, no country to call theirs.
Rome will enter area 42 with full forces. Somthing you cannot stop. But if there will be no battle than we will have no reason to do anything. You will be granted to have areas 41 and 40 free while the rest will be evacuated for Turkey and Rome to take.

to Turkey:
We want 42 and 46 very much. 46 is the greek homelands, and their culture is our culture... But if you do not agree we want 42 and 43 instead. Austria must stay allive, unless they dont want to themselves.

 

[RoddyVR]

To Rome
From Austria

We will not surrender to the likes of you. one lucky battle, and you think you're invincible. your own arrogance will be your downfall.

 

[Jason The King]

To Rome
From France

Congratulations on your victories.

To Africa
From France

Congratulations, though we are sad for the loss of 45. We will contact your embassy for further details on the future.

To Britain
From France

Are you taking Ireland or what?

 

[Finmaster]

From Turkey
To Rome:
How can you say that greek culture is your culture, they have been under turkish rule for centuries before the austrians came?! but very well, we shall allow you to have that area as a sign for our goodwill towards the roman people. But 43, 44 and 56 will be ours.

 

[Erik Mesoy]

Reroll the battle for 68. I had 1 army there and a city.

Provides a Militia for the Province which counts as a Defending Army if the province is attacked.

Forgetting your own rules?

From Norway
To Russia
Peace at present borders?

Edit: one more error...
My ship and britain's ship did not kill each other in B.

 

[RoddyVR]

HOLY CRAP!!!!!!

forgetting is not the right word. its more like never noticing. by the time the first battle rolled around, i'd long forgoten the militia in cities thing, and have not used it yet. gotta go check how many battles would have to be different. hope not too many cities have been attacked yet. ARG!!!!

list of battles that have involved cities:
update 7.
territory 33. Rome attacked Austria, didnt win though, so i'll leave that one as it was. even though austria could have done better with the militia.

update 9 (the last one)
territory 45. Africa's defences should have been stronger. will reroll the whole battle (cant immagine Africa will object).

territory 33. Austria should have had one more defender (proly would have lost it anyway though). since the attacking force is bigger anyway, it's probably fair to leave Rome's roll as it was (ie wiping out Austrians in one turn anyway) and reroll Austria's roll to see if they'd have killed more with the extra defence.

territory 55. Turkey would have had one more defender, but since it was a rout anyway (no turkish casualties) the battle couldnt have gone better for them anyway, no point in redoing.

territory 68. this one definetly has to be redone, as the Defence is doubled by the city militia.

everyone affected by this, i am REALY sorry. guess in designing the rules, i changed that part enough times that i remembered it wrong, and never made sure.

Circon, thanks from bringing it to my attention.

 

[erez87]

so just scrap the rule.... Tought I think only 1-3 cities were attacked in all the game, but didn't looked at Spain yet

 

[RoddyVR]

i'm not scapping the rule. now that i notice it, i see why i put it in. it makes a lot of sence. except the sweden thing, this affects NPCs so i'm making them take the hit (ie running worst scenario for them).

rerolls:
territory 45: rerolled the whole thing
rolls 26 vs 17. same result (4 surviving spaniards)

territory 33: austria had a horrible roll in the update, and to preserve that fact, i'm just saying that the militia takes out 1 more of the Roman armies.

territory 55: as i said it aint realy affected.

territory 68: this one is the bugger. rerolling the whole thing. sorry if this screwed one of you (matt and erik) but its likely that one wont like the new outcome, i'll have to stick by it, whatever it is.........
battle 2 britain vs 2 norway:
rolls 3 britain. 2 norway
same result.
thank god! dont have to redo much in way of economy, just that rome has 1 less army and 1 more gold(no upkeep on that lost army).