Romney: I won't revoke Visas for young illegal immigrantants

[downtown]

So I think this is fairly big news...Mitt said that he won't revoke any visas given out under the President's recent executive order staying deportations for young people in college.

Mitt Romney says he would not deport young illegal immigrants who were allowed to stay in the United States through an executive order signed by President Obama.

"The people who have received the special visa that the president has put in place, which is a two-year visa, should expect that visa would continue to be valid," Romney told The Denver Post in an interview published today. "I'm not going to take something that they've purchased."

The GOP presidential nominee vowed to enact a "full immigration plan" that he has proposed before those visas expire.

In June, Obama announced a new program that would allow up to 1.7 million illegal immigrants to receive two-year deferments on deportation proceedings. They would be allowed to receive work permits during that time. The Department of Homeland Security has already begun approving some applications in the "Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals" program.

At the time, Romney and other Republicans criticized Obama for bypassing Congress and implementing the new program via executive order. Romney suggested politics played a part in Obama's action, given the role Hispanic voters could play in swing states such as Colorado.

Romney came under fire during the GOP primaries from Texas Gov. Rick Perry and others for his immigration proposals, including "self-deportation" in which illegal immigrants would choose to leave the United States on their own and re-apply to come back legally.

He has since said he would work with Congress to enact a wide variety of changes that would strengthen the borders and simplify the immigration process, including the programs dealing with temporary worker visas and employment verification.

We all understand the politics behind it, but I think it's still important to have this on the record, especially since Mitt ran to the right of Rick Perry on immigration during the primaries.

What do you think? Is this a good policy? Would a Romney administration make a real attempt to go after comprehensive immigration reform? DOES THIS HURT OBAMA POLITICALLY

 

[AlpsStranger]

Neither party is going to stop illegal immigration. It's a force of nature.

Any party foolish enough to really try and stop it is going to be stuck with 24/7 news coverage of men with shotguns herding crying women and children across the border on their watch. Any sincere attack on immigration would be political suicide on an epic scale.

 

[Quackers]

Neither party is going to stop illegal immigration. It's a force of nature.

Any party foolish enough to really try and stop it is going to be stuck with 24/7 news coverage of men with shotguns herding crying women and children across the border on their watch. Any sincere attack on immigration would be political suicide on an epic scale.

to stop that particular image, declare an amnesty - then build a wall

 

[illram]

Not unexpected. It's fun because Romney is a weather vane (thank you Huntsman) but Romney's political career is more social moderate than hardcore social conservative. He was a MA Governor, after all. I'm fairly certain if elected his "appeal to the base" crazy talk from the primaries will moslty vanish.

It's the economic and labor policies that I am worried about. That and the SCOTUS he will put together.... *shudder*

 

[Cutlass]

to stop that particular image, declare an amnesty - then build a wall

Only a very small part of America's illegal immigrants walk across the border. A wall will cost millions of dollars for every illegal stopped.


To the OP, this is just Romney being Romney. He has no convictions on the issue, so he panders to whatever he thinks people want to hear at the moment. This just demonstrates to the base and the small number of still undecideds that Romney can't really be trusted on any issues.

 

[GhostWriter16]

I actually agree with Romney on this (And I don't like him, you guys know that). I disagreed with Obama doing it in the first place, but what's done is done. You can't tell people who are now legally allowed to be here "Oh, you have to leave now."

Romney's just using common sense here, if he does in fact mean it.

 

[Quackers]

Only a very small part of America's illegal immigrants walk across the border. A wall will cost millions of dollars for every illegal stopped.


To the OP, this is just Romney being Romney. He has no convictions on the issue, so he panders to whatever he thinks people want to hear at the moment. This just demonstrates to the base and the small number of still undecideds that Romney can't really be trusted on any issues.

how do they get in?

 

[AlpsStranger]

how do they get in?

Backs of trucks, inside dashboards. How don't they get in?

 

[Quackers]

my wall covers roads too, duhhh....

 

[potatokiosk]

how do they get in?

A significant number of them come here with a legal visa, then when the visa expires they don't bother to leave and continue to live here illegally.

 

[Archbob]

Did you really expect Mitt to not flip-flop on something?

 

[Gen.Mannerheim]

I've always been curious as to why Romney thinks he has to pander to the "far-right". He already has the anti-Obama/liberal vote. He should have been focusing on moderates and turning some of the blue northern states (Pennsylvania and Michigan for example) into battlegrounds due to his connections with those regions. The primary's over and he still acting like he has to beat Santorum.

 

[AlpsStranger]

I've always been curious as to why Romney thinks he has to pander to the "far-right". He already has the anti-Obama/liberal vote. He should have been focusing on moderates and turning some of the blue northern states (Pennsylvania and Michigan for example) into battlegrounds due to his connections with those regions. The primary's over and he still acting like he has to beat Santorum.

Maybe he's not actually that clever a politician.

I know it's heresy to say that, but why do we assume that being a good businessman is magic? Am I to assume that he'd be a good deep sea diver, concert pianist, competitive keyboarder, expert Starcraft 2 player, or stage magician? If not, then why must we all start with the premise that he's an expert politician due to being an expert money manipulator?

 

[Antilogic]

Maybe he's not actually that clever a politician.

I know it's heresy to say that, but why do we assume that being a good businessman is magic? Am I to assume that he'd be a good deep sea diver, concert pianist, competitive keyboarder, expert Starcraft 2 player, or stage magician? If not, then why must we all start with the premise that he's an expert politician due to being an expert money manipulator?

You stole my post. The worship of "job creators" in this country has gotten to the point where we assume they are übermensch capable of succeeding at any task they choose to set themselves to.

 

[Gen.Mannerheim]

Maybe he's not actually that clever a politician.

I know it's heresy to say that, but why do we assume that being a good businessman is magic? Am I to assume that he'd be a good deep sea diver, concert pianist, competitive keyboarder, expert Starcraft 2 player, or stage magician? If not, then why must we all start with the premise that he's an expert politician due to being an expert money manipulator?

Romney reminds me of Herbert Hoover for a few reasons, but Hoover was a far better political strategist. Hoover was the first Republican to try the "Southern Strategy" snagging Oklahoma, Tennessee, Kentucky, North Carolina, Texas, Virginia, Florida, and Missouri like a boss. Hoover knew how to steal votes from the other party while keeping your base intact. If Romney wants to actually make this a fight that he can win, he should be doing all he can to get Pennsylvania, New Hampshire, Ohio, Michigan, Minnesota, Wisconsin, and Iowa. Even Indiana, the odd ball state in the middle of the midwest, isn't that deep in Romney's camp.

 

[Antilogic]

I hadn't considered that comparison too carefully, but it does make a lot of sense at first glance.

 

[LucyDuke]

So I think this is fairly big news...Mitt said that he won't revoke any visas given out under the President's recent executive order staying deportations for young people in college.


What do you think? Is this a good policy? Would a Romney administration make a real attempt to go after comprehensive immigration reform? DOES THIS HURT OBAMA POLITICALLY

heeeey all you people that should be deported BUT I WON'T DEPORT YOU YET or whatever VOTE FOR ME AND STUFF

Has Mitt talking ever hurt anyone besides Mitt politically?

If not, then why must we all start with the premise that he's an expert politician due to being an expert money manipulator?

heh heh heh

 

[JollyRoger]

Given Romney's words and Obama's record number of deportations, I guess Chiteng will have to vote Obama now.

 

[bhsup]

Dammit, there are two concurrent romney threads about immigration. I thought I'd posted in the wrong one based on the title. Can we get these merged. OR... alternatively, just merge them all into a grand, unifying "Alp's Romney thread omnibus merger"? Anyway, what I posted in the previous one, which I already edited because I thought it was the wrong one...

While I don't advocate the death penalty for illegal invaders, I certainly don't think it should be a misdemeanor either. That's utterly ridiculous. They're pissing on our sovereignity and should be treated as felons for trying to illegally enter our country. If caught and deported, they should be put on a list of people never eligible for legal immigraton.

That said, our immigration policies are far too strict and we really need to open up the gates, let a lot more in, and make it easier to get in. But until that IS the case, I don't see why we should turn a blind eye to those who purposely invaded us illegally.
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[JollyRoger]

I agree that it should not be a misdemeanor.