Russia to US: Stop Meddling in Our Domestic Affairs

[red_elk]

No, they are pretty mainstream, unless you live in a far-left bubble.

Looks like this forum is far left bubble.
Also all my life, including Canadian, Russian and European experience happen to be in a far-left bubble.
Look around, may be you are looking from inside of a bubble?

What would a "balanced" view entail? Ignoring the human rights abuses that are the daily bread in Russia?

Not ignoring them, but recognizing that they are not daily bread here.

Turning a blind eye to the bullyish behaviour that your government calls "diplomacy"?

Accepting that what you perceive as bullyish behaviour is not always such.
For example, recognizing that Georgian war started by planned Georgian attack, not by Russian invasion. The fact which is obvious by now, but the one which you refused to believe from the beginning.
Recognizing that the gas dispute with Ukraine was caused by money, not by some political demands from Russia, which you can't even name (what were Ukrainian political concessions, after dispute settled, can you explain?)

Again, come back when your country stops acting so shamefully, and maybe my views of it will be more "balanced".

Don't fool yourself, Russia will always act shamefully in your view.

 

[Winner]

Don't fool yourself, Russia will always act shamefully in your view.

Riiiight, Mr. Freud. Well, have a nice day.

 

[red_elk]

Riiiight, Mr. Freud. Well, have a nice day.

See you in next topic about Russia, where you will be passionately expressing your non-hatred

 

[Incodcito]

Putin: I am scared s***less that the Russians are beginning to see through my bulls***.

(pardon my French)

Time for the Russian spring is coming.

Hopefully the Russian fall isn't like that other one... but I feel democracy is worth the risk.

 

[Winner]

Hopefully the Russian fall isn't like that other one... but I feel democracy is worth the risk.

Russia won't collapse in the way some of the Muslim countries did. The pro-democracy movement there is a middle class thing, not a knee-jerk reaction of impoverished proles.

The Russians simply need to realize that Putin will not and cannot lead them to a better future. He represents everything that is rotten in the traditional Russian way of running the country. Then they need to set up proper democratic institutions and evolve a new generation of politicians whose rise came from free and fair elections, not shadowy backroom deals between ex-KGB officials.

If Central European post-communist countries managed to go through this transition, I don't see why Russia couldn't.

 

[Incodcito]

Russia won't collapse in the way some of the Muslim countries did. The pro-democracy movement there is a middle class thing, not a knee-jerk reaction of impoverished proles.

The Russians simply need to realize that Putin will not and cannot lead them to a better future. He represents everything that is rotten in the traditional Russian way of running the country. Then they need to set up proper democratic institutions and evolve a new generation of politicians whose rise came from free and fair elections, not shadowy backroom deals between ex-KGB officials.

If Central European post-communist countries managed to go through this transition, I don't see why Russia couldn't.

Hey, I hope that that is the case!

 

[King Kalmah]

Yeah? And why it is so hard for you to accept that a group of states known as West is nothing more than a bunch of elitist hyenas ready to tear up a random nation unlucky enough to stray from its herd?

I know this,I understand what you mean.Look at Japan they were our ally in WW1(pre NATO).Also Cuba,Iraq and Iran come to mind since yes we let them be taken over by either the Communist or by Dictators since they wouldn't go "our" way,but at least we "let" left them alone to do what they wanted...

I never got any real answers...about Hungary or Czechoslovakia....why did they need soviet "protection" from the West?

Why did RUSSIA have to meddle in Hungarian affairs?!

 

[Leoreth]

The Russians had to protect helpless governments from their subjects citizens, of course.