Selahaddin: Kurd or Turk?

[Birdjaguar]

Or there might even be a thread in the Civ 7 game forums where that topic is actively being discussed.

 

[Takhisis]

So Civilization highlighting him as part of Eyyubid and it being Arab is actually correct, since they had Arab origins, their descendants claimed Arabness and their state was run in Arabic.

Welcome to the forum!

At the time loyalties were personal/feudal and not ethnic in an 19th-century style. Just because a state is run in one language does not mean anybody else uses it or identifies as such. E.g. England was run in French and Latin for centuries and nobody considers the often monolingual-French successors of William to be anything other than English.

National identities simply did not apply at the time. Not that I'd object to Saladin being an Arab, but how would you qualify the Persian-speaking Turks who ruled Arab lands at the time, including the Bahri and Burji Mamluks that came after the Ayyubids?

Also, my question from 20 years ago still stands: what do the Kurds say?

 

[r16]

kurds are not the owners of history .

 

[H4run]

Geez Salahudin is a Kurd, and undeniably a Muslim as well. It's insane how these Arabs and Turks nationalist want to claim every Muslims heroes and leaders as theirs, from Salman The Persian, Bilal the Abyssinian till now Salahudin the Kurd. Give some space also for others lol

Asabiyah (tribalism) is the calling of jahiliyah (days of ignorance)

"All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a White has no superiority over a Black nor a Black has any superiority over a White except by piety and good action. Learn that every Muslim is a brother to every Muslim and that the Muslims constitute one brotherhood"