Sexual Assault Allegations as Political Weaponry

[Synobun]

It's male entitlement that you think you should be able to do that in the first place. Most women are not capable of doing that, and have to hope that their men can protect themselves.

I don't think feeling that way is, or should be, unique to men. It does change between the two dominant sexes, though, because biology is largely what determines this capability. It's no more male entitlement to recognize this than it is female entitlement to recognize the maternal instinct.

In my situation, it makes me feel poorly because there was a day when I was capable, and I've always possessed a strong desire to protect and enrich others. In a world with physical danger, not being able to protect people from harm is a damning trait if that's what you expect of yourself (and used to be something you could readily do).

 

[Perfection]

So here we have a report showing that pro-Clinton operatives bribed women hundreds of thousands of dollars to accuse Trump of sexual assault. Imagine my shock.

Note that Bloom's mother Gloria Allred was also involved in the accusations against Roy Moore. In other words, false accusations are the new Democrat MO. They figured out that accusations of racism/xenophobia don't work any more, so now they have switched to accusations of sexual assault. And unfortunately, they now have proof in Alabama that it works. And there are virtually no consequences for the women making these false accusations. Expect to see a lot more of these going forward.

I wouldn't be surprised that some people did some fishy things to get Trump.

But stuff like the Access Hollywood tape and reports about he behaved at the Miss Universe pageant has lead me to believe he really does have some objectionable views of women.

The man is disgusting.

 

[hobbsyoyo]

I wouldn't be surprised that some people did some fishy things to get Trump.

But stuff like the Access Hollywood tape and reports about he behaved at the Miss Universe pageant has lead me to believe he really does have some objectionable views of women.

The man is disgusting.

What's disgusting is that some people (the OP for one) are so blinded by ideology that this has to be explained to them; to which their response is a vigorous exercise of see no evil, hear no evil, nana nana booboo the democrats are doodoo.

 

[Broken_Erika]

That's because they operate on Anti-Logic. When Anti-Logic comes into contact with regular Logic it results in the annihilation of both and a 100% energy release in the form of "flame posts". This reaction is also what powers many forum trolls, if only we could harness this energy we would have an unlimited supply of energy!

 

[Synobun]

That's because they operate on Anti-Logic. When Anti-Logic comes into contact with regular Logic it results in the annihilation of both and a 100% energy release in the form of "flame posts". This reaction is also what powers many forum trolls, if only we could harness this energy we would have an unlimited supply of energy!

This post becomes better if you read it as though it's referring to the CFC user.

 

[Broken_Erika]

This post becomes better if you read it as though it's referring to the CFC user.

He doesn't post often enough generate enough anti-logic to reliably generate electricity for more than a couple months a year...
If he posted regularly for say 3-4 weeks he could generate enough anti-logic to fuel a logic/anti-logic reactor powerful enough to run the sites server for about 5-6 years.

 

[hobbsyoyo]

I think he quit the forum altogether.

 

[Manfred Belheim]

Biologically speaking, the chances of a man being stronger than a woman are greater than the other way around. And if you're in a relationship, you typically make a general vow that the more capable will help the less capable. This applies to more than just feats of physical prowess. Your strengths fill the other's weaknesses, and the other way around. If you're capable of it, you'll want to protect your SO or to reduce the risk of harm to them.

A swift kick to the 'nads is probably good enough, true. Sometimes it isn't, and as a man it seems nonsensical to let your girlfriend/wife street brawl while you look on because you "expect a bit more".

It's also almost ludicrous to imagine such a situation would develop into a street brawl. Well, unless you step in and turn it into one of course. 99% of the time she'd just slap him/knee him and he'd beat a retreat.

 

[Synobun]

It's also almost ludicrous to imagine such a situation would develop into a street brawl. Well, unless you step in and turn it into one of course. 99% of the time she'd just slap him/knee him and he'd beat a retreat.

In my experience it's about 70/30, 70 towards "beats a retreat" and 30 towards "escalates". Not quite 99% but you're right that it's more likely for everything to come up Milhouse.

 

[Manfred Belheim]

Not just a woman, your daughter or wife. I'd expect her to want your help. But you dont think they'd be looking for your help because they have 'agency'? If it was your wife and you stood there respecting her agency, she might be wanting a divorce. Do you know any women assaulted by Trump, Franken, Moore and Weinstein?

I don't even know who two of those people are. Are any of them famous for randomly walking up to women who are with men in public places and kissing them?

If some guy walked up and started kissing your wife or daughter and they got mad and looked to you for help

See this is the bit that makes it weird. How does someone "get mad" in this situation and simultaneously passively look at other people for help? It just sounds like such a bizarre conjuration of a person.

would you tell them they shouldn't have consented?

Oh right we're doing the strawman thing now. Cool.

 

[Berzerker]

its not a straw man, civver and I were discussing consent... I dont suppose the look would be passive, more panicky or angry. Franken was grabbing arses in front of hubbys, but since the question was for civver in the role of dutiful husband his presence is required for my question.

 

[Manfred Belheim]

In my experience it's about 70/30, 70 towards "beats a retreat" and 30 towards "escalates". Not quite 99% but you're right that it's more likely for everything to come up Milhouse.

Do you have a lot of experience of this bizarre situation of random stranger coming up and kissing a man whilst she's with another man in a public place? I'd be interested to know what form the "escalations" take in such a setup. Presumably if no man steps in the woman just freezes and a full-on rape ensues... 30% of the time? I mean if that's true then yes, I'd have to agree that it does sound like there's a pretty strong rape culture wherever you are. I'm glad I don't live there.

 

[Synobun]

Do you have a lot of experience of this bizarre situation of random stranger coming up and kissing a man whilst she's with another man in a public place? I'd be interested to know what form the "escalations" take in such a setup. Presumably if no man steps in the woman just freezes and a full-on rape ensues... 30% of the time? I mean if that's true then yes, I'd have to agree that it does sound like there's a pretty strong rape culture wherever you are. I'm glad I don't live there.

Arguing in good faith, I see.

 

[Manfred Belheim]

its not a straw man, civver and I were discussing consent... I dont suppose the look would be passive, more panicky or angry. Franken was grabbing arses in front of hubbys, but since the question was for civver in the role of dutiful husband his presence is required for my question.

Hmm, well... I'd say it's a strawman because the bit I quoted wasn't about that (I cut that part off because that's not what I was addressing) and I don't believe I've said anything to indicate that I think the woman would have consented in that situation, so to ask me that question in a way that implies you think I was saying that was kind of strawmanny. Only a small one though, so never mind.

 

[Manfred Belheim]

Arguing in good faith, I see.

There's nothing bad faith about ridiculing the ridiculous.

 

[Synobun]

It is not ridiculous to acknowledge that there are men who don't take kindly to "no" when being aggressive with a woman, and that a male SO may be better equipped to handle such a situation better than the woman should it come to a physical altercation.

Escalation of public harassment does not equate to a literal rape on the streets, and making a comparison like that even from a perspective of hyperbole doesn't ridicule the above.

 

[Arakhor]

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[Arakhor]

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