Should the U.S adopt the Metric system completely and why?

There's 224 ounces in a pound and 2240 pounds in a ton. The short ton has 240 pounds less :)

As anyone who has studied the Metric system to any degree whatsoever, it's 1000, 1000, 1,000,000.
A short ton is the default over here on the States, long ton is the other one that you guys use :) .
 
When you're counting in your example, you're assuming you're at zero when you begin. That doesn't mean that zero doesn't exist. Suppose you originally owed an apple to someone, how would you go about counting each apple you were subsequently given?
I would count the apples as the first, second, third etc. I don't get why you have to complicate simple things like counting so much.

Nobody would say were in the year 2010.84 because: 1) it's of very little use to go to this kind of precision in our lives (you certainly don't go the time right now is 6:30 36 seconds and 96 milliseconds); and 2) because we have agreed to use integers only (although we can be more precise by mentioning the months and days).
No, we have agreed to use integers only because we happen to count things in integers (positive integers, that is).
 
2,200 pounds is equal to one Metric tonne, yes, so it's extremely similar to the Imperial ton.
 
The world already have standardized on metric for decades, you know. We didn't wait for USA, and everything international is in metrics.
There are still Myanmar and Liberia. :p

However, it is still far from complete metrification. And it took a very long time for some countries to finally come around. There are also still a number of exceptions:

However, a number of jurisdictions have laws mandating or permitting other systems of measurement in some or all contexts, such as the United Kingdom.[5][6] Most countries have adopted the metric system officially over a transitional period where both units are used for a set period of time. Some countries such as Guyana, for example, have officially adopted the metric system, but have had some trouble over time implementing it.[7] Antigua, also 'officially' metric, is moving toward total implementation of the metric system, but slower than expected.[8] Other Caribbean countries such as Saint Lucia are officially metric but are still in the process toward full conversion.[9]

In the European Union, with the Units of Measure Directive, the European Council (of Ministers) sought to achieve a common system of weights and measures to further the aims of the European Single Market. Throughout the 1990s, the European Commission helped accelerate the process for member countries to complete their metric conversion processes. During these negotiations, the United Kingdom secured permanent exemptions for the mile and yard in road markings, and (with Ireland) for the pint of beer sold in pubs[10] (see Metrication in the United Kingdom). In 2007, the European Commission also announced that (to facilitate trade with the United States) it was to abandon the requirement for metric-only labelling on packaged goods, and to allow dual metric-imperial marking to continue indefinitely.

Other countries using the old imperial system completed metrication during the second half of the 20th century. The most recent to complete this process was the Republic of Ireland, which began metric conversion in the 1970s and finalised it in early 2005.

In January 2007 NASA agreed to use metric units for all future moon missions due to pressure from other space agencies.[11]

The United States and the United Kingdom have some active opposition to metrication. Other countries, like France and Japan, that once had significant popular opposition to metrication now have complete acceptance of metrication.

As of 2007, in most countries of the world the metric system officially dominates; but traditional units are still used in many places and industries. For example, automobile tyre pressure is measured as psi in countries such as Brazil, Argentina, Australia and Chile which are otherwise completely metric. Office space is often rented in traditional units, such as square foot in Hong Kong, tsubo in Japan or pyeong in Korea. Traditional measurements are still used in some areas: e.g., in plumbing the diameters of pipes are still measured in inches in some countries (in the United Kingdom all new pipes are metric). Automotive wheel diameters are still set as whole inch measurements (although tyre widths are measured in millimetres) and dots per inch continues to be used in describing graphical resolution in the computer industry. Television and monitor screen diameters are still commonly cited in inches in many countries; however, in Australia and South Africa, centimetres are often used for television sets, whereas CRT computer monitors and all LCD monitors are measured in inches. The only exception to the metrication process in Ireland was the pint in bars, pubs, and clubs; although alcohol sold in any other location is in metric units (usually 330 ml (canned beer), 500 ml (bottled beer), 750 ml (wine), or 1 l (spirit)). In Australia, a pint of beer was redefined to 570 ml (see Australian beer glasses). In both metric and non-metric countries, racing bicycle frames are generally measured in centimetres, while mountain bicycle frames are measured in either or both. In Spain and former colonies i.e. Americas and Philippines certain pre-metric units are still used e.g. the quiñón for land measurement in the Philippines, the fanega, ferrado and atahúlla to name three used in Spain and other former possessions. The pulgada (inch) is 23 mm so 2 mm shorter than the English inch.

In some countries (such as Antigua, see above), the transition is still in progress. The Caribbean island nation of Saint Lucia announced metrication programs in 2005 to be compatible with CARICOM.[17] In the United Kingdom, the metric system is compulsory in most, but not all, industries. In the United Kingdom, the metric system had been legal for nearly a century before metrication efforts began in earnest. The government had been making preparations for the conversion of the Imperial unit since the 1862 Select Committee on Weights and Measures recommended the conversion[18] and the Weights and Measures Act of 1864 and the Weights and Measures (Metric System) Act of 1896 legalised the metric system.[19] In 1965, with lobbying from British industries and the prospects of joining the European Community, the government set a 10 year target for full conversion and created the Metrication Board in 1969. Metrication did occur in many areas during this time period, including the re-surveying of Ordnance Survey maps in 1970, decimalisation of the currency in 1971, and teaching the metric system in schools. However, no date was set for making the use of the metric system compulsory, and the Metrication Board was abolished in 1980 following a change in government.[20] The 1989 European Units of Measurement Directive (89/617/EEC) required all member states to make the metric system compulsory; however, the British negotiated certain derogations (delayed switchovers), including miles for road signs, and pints for draught beer, cider, and milk sales.[21] and because physical repackaging into rounded metric numbers could lead to reducing the quantity of goods sold for the same price.[22] It should, however, be noted that some items have been rounded up during metric changeover; for example, spirits were changed from 1/6 of a gill (23.7 ml) to 25 ml and the standard loaf from 14 ounces (396.9 g) to 400 g.

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I would count the apples as the first, second, third etc. I don't get why you have to complicate simple things like counting so much.
What about your first half of an apple? That would be 0.5 apples. Your first 1/10 of an apple would be 0.1 apples.

Since we don't use decimals to be exact with years, year 0 lasts until year one begins, though we could agree to say we're in year 0.5 on June 1, in the year designated as year zero.
 
I believe the first president to try and install the metric system in the US was President Johnson. That's Andrew Johnson, back in 1866. Eventually we will recognize the wisdom of this inspirational figure.
I'm pretty sure that the answer to his attempt was something like "we can't be arsed to learn something simpler, so let's stick with an absurd, uselessly complex system".
And because of that, new generations still learned this same ridiculous system, and today we see the same argument :D
 
My mom said they tried to force the metric system on the population in the 50s and it was drilled into her in school then. They said at the time that by the 70s the nation would be completely metric. Flash forward to the 70s. I'm in elementary school and they are forcing metric down our throats at school and saying by the end of the century the nation will be completely metric.

HAHAHAHA!
 
There are still Myanmar and Liberia. :p

However, it is still far from complete metrification. And it took a very long time for some countries to finally come around. There are also still a number of exceptions:
Yes, there is some backward exception, but the world at large still use the metric system.
Other countries, like France and Japan, that once had significant popular opposition to metrication now have complete acceptance of metrication.
:huh:
Considering France INVENTED the metric system, that it was used since before the XIXth century, that it never looked back since then, and that I never heard about any opposition, but rather enthusiast acceptance... I wonder what exactly they call "popular opposition", and just how back in time they reach...
 
It is all explained in the article.
 
My mom said they tried to force the metric system on the population in the 50s and it was drilled into her in school then. They said at the time that by the 70s the nation would be completely metric. Flash forward to the 70s. I'm in elementary school and they are forcing metric down our throats at school and saying by the end of the century the nation will be completely metric.

HAHAHAHA!
"Hahaha, we never learn!" :crazyeye:
 
What about your first half of an apple? That would be 0.5 apples. Your first 1/10 of an apple would be 0.1 apples.

Since we don't use decimals to be exact with years, year 0 lasts until year one begins, though we could agree to say we're in year 0.5 on June 1, in the year designated as year zero.
Now your splitting hairs (and apples). I was talking about counting discrete objects. One year is one discrete object, and I can count it.

Another question: was the year when you were "zero years old" year one in your life or year zero?

Akka said:
Considering France INVENTED the metric system, that it was used since before the XIXth century, that it never looked back since then, and that I never heard about any opposition, but rather enthusiast acceptance... I wonder what exactly they call "popular opposition", and just how back in time they reach...
Although France went even further with their love for the decimal system. I wonder why 10-hour days and 10-day weeks haven't caught on. :mischief:
 
I guess. As one guy said, the US cannot have got competitive manufacturing sector without the metric system; but then again, the US has given up having such a sector, so that doesn't really matter. IIRC, the US wanted to go metric in in 19th century, but they couldn't since the UK was still on Imperial units. So that done with.
 
Whoa whoa whoa.

What's all this about Americans using "miles" for measurement?
I thought everything was measured in football fields?

And, for what it's worth, Celsius is super easy and intuitive, no need to be scared of it.
Just think of it like we do...Below 0 means snow. Above 0 means no snow.
 
Fahrenheit is better, honestly. You can switch over everything else and it's not terribly difficult to learn. But temperature? I'll never ever use Celsius. I'm used to fahrenheit, I can measure the temperature in fahrenheit just by being outside in it. Celsius, not so much!
 
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