Single Player bugs and crashes - After the 24th of February 2014

Dancing Hoskuld · May 17, 2014

Having just assured everyone that automated workers don't build forts inside work radius of cities I find that it is not the case! :eek:

Not only that but the option "Auto workers leave old improvements" is being ignored as well! :eek:

Save includes BBAI log just in case it tells you something.

strategyonly · May 17, 2014

@ Sparth

shouldn't this have an ending file name of "nif" i never saw any blend before???

Sparth · May 17, 2014

strategyonly said:
@ Sparth

shouldn't this have an ending file name of "nif" i never saw any blend before???

its end with nif
file name is: imperialmusketspainishregular.blend.nif

strategyonly · May 17, 2014

Sparth said:
its end with nif
file name is: imperialmusketspainishregular.blend.nif

DUH

, i have the ending off on my view DUH!!! :blush:

Thunderbrd · May 17, 2014

Dancing Hoskuld said:
Having just assured everyone that automated workers don't build forts inside work radius of cities I find that it is not the case! Not only that but the option "Auto workers leave old improvements" is being ignored as well!

Save includes BBAI log just in case it tells you something.

Having been informed that automated AI routines and normal AI routines differ, I can assure you nothing's been done to automation routines. Not a small task either.

olduser · May 17, 2014

Dancing Hoskuld said:
Having just assured everyone that automated workers don't build forts inside work radius of cities I find that it is not the case! Not only that but the option "Auto workers leave old improvements" is being ignored as well!

Save includes BBAI log just in case it tells you something.

Thunderbrd said:
Having been informed that automated AI routines and normal AI routines differ, I can assure you nothing's been done to automation routines. Not a small task either.

I'am not sure if that superforts code changed something but since then that code is the same.

Thukew · May 17, 2014

alberts2 said:
I was asking if you could get any of the other bonuses with buildings.... or if that is not possible. If it is not possible this must be fixed by e.g. adding another prereq.

I didn't test this very well, but I got another chance when I got up to Industrialization. As soon as I researched that, I lost access to nets, leather, furniture, hats, chemicals, glassware, candles, saddles, soap, ghee oil, books, cheese, milk, paper, rope, sausage, and shoes. A whole bunch of buildings and improvements that depended on those resources went offline.

Over the next few turns, I built newer buildings for leather, furniture, hats, glassware, candles, and soap. As soon as these were built, the resources returned (usually at 1 or 2 rather than the 20+ I'd had before) and dependent structures came back online.

Same thing happened (with different resources/buildings vanishing) when I researched Globalization. A long list of buildings become obsolete, but their functionality isn't automatically passed along to anything else.

strategyonly · May 17, 2014

@ Sparth

Now that you got most of the audio MP3's done, there is also the Leaderhead file that needs to be changed also, and if that gets messed up, the game will CTD

Here is some of the changes you made that come up errors:

Spoiler :

See messing with one thing just leads to another.

Also at DH
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When you fixed that Civ4Alerts stuff, it seems that was a culprit in turn times also??? at least for me, it saved around 5-8 seconds.

Sparth · May 17, 2014

strategyonly said:
@ Sparth

Now that you got most of the audio MP3's done, there is also the Leaderhead file that needs to be changed also, and if that gets messed up, the game will CTD

Do you know in which file this changes must be done?

strategyonly · May 17, 2014

Sparth said:
Do you know in which file this changes must be done?

I would normally fix alot of stuff you are doing, but this way your in the learning aspect, and this, at least i hope so, is helping you understand how to do stuff?? It took me years to figure stuff out, and heck even at 8 years now at ~~Civ IV~~ CFC, i am still learning stuff.

Dancing Hoskuld · May 17, 2014

Thunderbrd said:
Having been informed that automated AI routines and normal AI routines differ, I can assure you nothing's been done to automation routines. Not a small task either.

alberts2 said:
I'am not sure if that superforts code changed something but since then that code is the same.

I think that the problem is deeper because the routines have not been changed.

When I hover over the tile it says that a fort is needed to get apples. I think this is because the first improvement that gives apples is the fruit picker camp. That is obsolete therefore the fort is needed. The worker and hover over texts have not been amended for the C2C upgrading improvements.

I checked back a bit in that save and those workers are on auto-trade network not fully automate. Perhaps auto-trade does not take those main options into account. It would make sense in normal BtS as that way when when a resource is found the correct improvement is placed on it.

Blue Senshi · May 17, 2014

Enemy warlords are able to enter my cities and attack out of them. I'm pretty sure that shouldn't be happening.

Thunderbrd · May 17, 2014

Dancing Hoskuld said:
I think that the problem is deeper because the routines have not been changed.

When I hover over the tile it says that a fort is needed to get apples. I think this is because the first improvement that gives apples is the fruit picker camp. That is obsolete therefore the fort is needed. The worker and hover over texts have not been amended for the C2C upgrading improvements.

I checked back a bit in that save and those workers are on auto-trade network not fully automate. Perhaps auto-trade does not take those main options into account. It would make sense in normal BtS as that way when when a resource is found the correct improvement is placed on it.

Yeah, the clammoring for work to be done in that area is growing to stupendous levels lately so perhaps I can find some time during the next cycle to try to work on some of the worker automations to sort those out. No way this cycle unless you want to extend the freeze for it for a few more weeks.

In fact... I do think given the volume of tasks we have to achieve before the end of the freeze that we should extend the freeze already as it is. (See my new thread on the improvement upgrades for a part of what I'm talking about in terms of the volume of efforts needed to repair things still.)

Sparth · May 18, 2014

strategyonly said:
I would normally fix alot of stuff you are doing, but this way your in the learning aspect, and this, at least i hope so, is helping you understand how to do stuff?? It took me years to figure stuff out, and heck even at 8 years now at ~~Civ IV~~ CFC, i am still learning stuff.

Ok I check this file (and Custom Leaderheads versions too) and everything is ok.
Why? Because CIV4LeaderHeadInfos.xml redirect to Audio2DScripts.xml and then to AudioDefines.xml

CIV4LeaderHeadInfos.xml has tags <DiploScriptId>AS2D_DIPLO_LEADERNAME_EARLY</DiploScriptId>

Audio2DScripts.xml define tag <ScriptID>AS2D_DIPLO_LEADERNAME_EARLY</ScriptID> redirecting (by tag <SoundID>DIPLO_TAG_NAME</SoundID> to AudioDefines.xml

AudioDefines.xml define sound file.

<ScriptID> dosnt change after my cleaning and wherefor CIV4LeaderHeadInfos.xm not need to be changed.

strategyonly · May 18, 2014

Sparth said:
Ok I check this file (and Custom Leaderheads versions too) and everything is ok.
Why? Because CIV4LeaderHeadInfos.xml redirect to Audio2DScripts.xml and then to AudioDefines.xml

CIV4LeaderHeadInfos.xml has tags <DiploScriptId>AS2D_DIPLO_LEADERNAME_EARLY</DiploScriptId>

Audio2DScripts.xml define tag <ScriptID>AS2D_DIPLO_LEADERNAME_EARLY</ScriptID> redirecting (by tag <SoundID>DIPLO_TAG_NAME</SoundID> to AudioDefines.xml

AudioDefines.xml define sound file.

<ScriptID> dosnt change after my cleaning and wherefor CIV4LeaderHeadInfos.xm not need to be changed.

I believe i directed you to only SOME of the stuff wrong, but also here, see pic

btw the 2dscripts and the audiodefines have to match otherwise they come up error.

Sparth · May 18, 2014

strategyonly said:
I believe i directed you to only SOME of the stuff wrong, but also here, see pic

files frome Custom Leaderheads and CIV4LeaderHeadInfos.xml are ok and not need to be edited. Only 2 files should be edited (and was):
Audio2DScripts.xml
AudioDefines.xml

strategyonly · May 18, 2014

Sparth said:
files frome Custom Leaderheads and CIV4LeaderHeadInfos.xml are ok and not need to be edited. Only 2 files should be edited (and was):
Audio2DScripts.xml
AudioDefines.xml

See above, i was typing as you wrote. Sorry, names have to be the same, otherwise error messages .

Look at your logs and you will see.

Its better to REPLACE the ones in the LH anyways, otherwise you have duplicate stuff again, and more files to look for thus making more turn times.

@ TB

Unitcombat Mounted now comes back as a TXT error (pic 2)

infact alot of them, are now coming back as TXT errors including Promo lines??

Flowerpunkt · May 18, 2014

Hi,

a lot of TXT errors in latest revision as mentioned above. A few that i just spotted

Promotions (level 4 tactics)
Buildings (bandits hideout, warriors hut, pit traps,
Units (worker, healer)

Sparth · May 18, 2014

strategyonly said:
See above, i was typing as you wrote. Sorry, names have to be the same, otherwise error messages .

Look at your logs and you will see.

Its better to REPLACE the ones in the LH anyways, otherwise you have duplicate stuff again, and more files to look for thus making more turn times.

Sorry I dont understand. Please write some example what do you mean, ok?

strategyonly · May 18, 2014

Sparth said:
Sorry I dont understand. Please write some example what do you mean, ok?

I gave you and example in post 1235, the names have to be the same, or you get errors in the audio files.

Then you need to go into the LHInfo files and correct the names there:

You have in the audiodefines:

<Script2DSound>
<ScriptID>AS2D_DIPLO_MENELIK_EARLY</ScriptID>
<SoundID>DIPLO_AFRICA_EARLY</SoundID>
<SoundType>GAME_MUSIC</SoundType>
<iMinVolume>100</iMinVolume>
<iMaxVolume>100</iMaxVolume>

but you already have a Diplo Africa Early, so actually there is no need for this, so it should be deleted, BUT, you also need to go into the LHInfo file and change the name that HAD "MENELIK" (all files have to be changed) to make it Diplo Africa Early

ie:

Spoiler :

otherwise you are just making duplicate files again and clogging up the turn times.

If you are still not understanding just let me know, i will do them, no biggy here ok, that way you can look at what i did and just "try" to remember.

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