Single Player bugs and crashes v43 plus (SVN) - After January 2023

[Somebody613]

Greetings ! Please don't ban me if i'm writing in the wrong place. Sorry for any inconvenience.

I always liked C2C's main menu picture with caveman and astronaut, as well as pic that is shown when game loads (sorry, don't know how is it properly named), but after i reinstalled my Windows 10 and started a new game, both the main menu pic and loading pic appear changed and i don't like new ones.

What can i do to make the old pics show up again ?

I have SVN r11634, Civ IV Complete edition [GOG].

Pics below show the new main menu and new loading pic.

Does the mod itself run without errors?
I can't say for sure, but this feels like a bad installation to me.
Maybe just reinstall the mod from scratch?
If done right, it SHOULD fix everything.

 

[Somebody613]

@ Tall_Player
When U load the mod and this screen comes up (1st screenshot) then click on Advanced U will get 2nd screenshot. Use bottom drop down menu to select BTS or BTS.Classical.
As for the loading screen that was changed sometime back. Don't know if the old loading screen was saved or discarded.

Oh! Nice.

 

[Hanakocz]

I had great success with Civ4 Mod launcher that I got there on the forums somewhere, and straight loading into C2C mod with correct expansion (BTS). And no switching each time. So you can check it out if you want to deal with that in this way.

 

[Somebody613]

I had great success with Civ4 Mod launcher that I got there on the forums somewhere, and straight loading into C2C mod with correct expansion (BTS). And no switching each time. So you can check it out if you want to deal with that in this way.

There's a C2C.bat file included in the mod folder, that launches the game with the mod already activated. I'm so used to it, lol.

 

[Tall_Player]

Use bottom drop down menu to select BTS or BTS.Classical.​

Thank you, i got the caveman/astronaut back !

EDIT: we don't ban ppl for asking questions here either.

Thanks ! I should have picked "Nervous Player" as a nickname.

Does the mod itself run without errors?
I can't say for sure, but this feels like a bad installation to me.
Maybe just reinstall the mod from scratch?
If done right, it SHOULD fix everything.

Yes, no errors. Yesterday i deleted everything in C2C's folder in "Games" directory and downloaded mod from scratch with Tortoise SVN. Got same creepy guy on horse staring me down.


Still, if someone can tell me how to get that pic with Roman legionnaires, American soldiers, erupting volcano and with other stuff back, i'll be very grateful.

And by the way, thank you so much for the mod, people !

P.S. The loading pic has changed back to the one i like, when i switched main menu pic, great !

 

[damerell]

r11634 | c2cappveyor | 2024-08-09 20:42:52 +0100 (Fri, 09 Aug 2024)

Kemetism's missionary building, the Temple of Chons, requires Meditation to build. Since that is a Classical tech I think that makes it unlikely that the religion of Ancient Egypt will spread significantly in the Ancient era.

Salt Evaporation Pond and Salt Evaporation Works seem like two versions of the same building. (ETA: maybe this is because of playing a spacemap with latitude restrictions off?)

Gardening (technology)'s audio and text quotes don't match.

 

[Hehe64]

So. After setting the menu item "Multiple Map Not Supported" and starting a new game, I was able to produce some space units.
But.
I was able to produce a total of two lunar rovers (after that the possibility of production ceased), plus the satellite, three interplanetary probes, and the solar sail worker.
After the satellite was manufactured, the mini-map fell apart every four to five rounds, as did the space map. The Fov was set to full zoom every round.
After about a third of the information lifestyle, the program exits with an error message. (Tested several times.)
The above issues are clearly occurring since update 11634.
Errors can be ignored, the user can be blamed, but the game cannot be played through at the moment.

 

[Somebody613]

the program exits with an error message.

It MAFs. Depending on how Multi-maps work on the programming level to begin with, it could be the "silent culprit" that causes the MAF. Or maybe not.
And about "strange map twitching each turn" - it happens even with Multi-maps, but I thought it's related to the fact I unlocked "Space maps" (teleported there), which caused this somehow.

 

[damerell]

r11634 | c2cappveyor | 2024-08-09 20:42:52 +0100 (Fri, 09 Aug 2024)

I got a quest to build Libraries (with an additional reward for the Great Library, if that helps narrow it down) when I already had the requisite number of Libraries, so it completed the next turn. That seems odd.

 

[Somebody613]

r11634 | c2cappveyor | 2024-08-09 20:42:52 +0100 (Fri, 09 Aug 2024)

I got a quest to build Libraries (with an additional reward for the Great Library, if that helps narrow it down) when I already had the requisite number of Libraries, so it completed the next turn. That seems odd.

Events are absolutely broken in C2C. Better never use them at all.

 

[jatkinson]

@damerell @Somebody613

Well there is actually someone working on events now, there was an update for them last SVN, so people should play with them and provide feedback. Many events have had the amount of gold they cost significantly rebalanced so it's no longer a complete pittance to pay to avoid the worst outcome. I have passed damerall's comment onto the person working on events on the discord.

 

[JosEPh_II]

@jatkinson Who is this person on Discord: The360MlgNoscoper ??? Are they working on the Russian language?

 

[damerell]

I kept having trouble with my workers building routes while using Auto Trade Network. I hate manually building routes and with Advanced Routes it is even more tedious, so I went into world builder and turned that option off. A turn passed and all the automated workers sprung into action. I am guessing that is not supposed to happen, right?

Edit: They built a few routes and stopped automating again.

I had this issue with Advanced Routes too - a pity since it is otherwise an interesting feature - but, while I hope I haven't called this too early, if I turn it off my workers seem to be doing Automate Trade Network just fine.

With Advanced Routes I saw them either camp out in cities or twitch - coming one space out of a city, then returning to it.

 

[jatkinson]

@jatkinson Who is this person on Discord: The360MlgNoscoper ??? Are they working on the Russian language?

I have no idea

 

[damerell]

@jatkinson Who is this person on Discord: The360MlgNoscoper ??? Are they working on the Russian language?

They have had at least one PR accepted (in changelog at https://forums.civfanatics.com/threads/c2c-svn-changelog.429816/post-16663413 ) and asked how to join the Discord in 2022.

Religious wonders from religions other than your state religion don't show up in the buildings a city can build with "Show constructable buildings only" off.

 

[Thunderbrd]

He's very active there and well known. He's mostly monitored by flabbert in terms of what he 'does'. There are times I've had to ask some commits to be retracted and if he's done something you don't want, he's on most of the time there.

 

[damerell]

r11634 | c2cappveyor | 2024-08-09 20:42:52 +0100 (Fri, 09 Aug 2024)

I could be wrong, but I think with Culture Equilibrium the AI is still culture bombing me with great works from Great Artists. This doesn't in general seem to be very effective - there are circumstances where you'd want that temporary boost, but as it is it just seems to be wasting Great People to delay matters.

PR sent for the struck out issue below.
Great Merchant Azod O-Dowleh's description is riddled with typos (which I've fixed on Wikipedia): "Was king of the Buyid dynasty. He build caravanserai's and dams. In the region of Shiraz, he built a palace with three hundred and sixty rooms with advanced wind towers for air conditioning system of residential rooms." I think this is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/'Adud_al-Dawla whose name is sometimes given as "Azod od-Dowleh" but not AFAICT as "O-Dowleh".

Suggest "Was king of the Buyid dynasty at its zenith. After achieving peace with the Byzantine Empire, the Buyid kingdom became prosperous under his rule; the tax income of Fārs province tripled. He built caravanserais, cisterns, dams, a large hospital, and a palace of three hundred and sixty rooms near Shiraz with elaborate wind towers and water canals." (mostly based on https://iranicaonline.org/articles/azod-al-dawla-abu-soja which is what the wikipedia article seems to have mangled).

 

[Maltazard]

Still, if someone can tell me how to get that pic with Roman legionnaires, American soldiers, erupting volcano and with other stuff back, i'll be very grateful.

I don't know where the pic file is located in the mod folder, but I'm sure it's in here somewhere... what I CAN tell you is that it's from the an old game, Empire Earth!

 

[JosEPh_II]

I don't know where the pic file is located in the mod folder, but I'm sure it's in here somewhere... what I CAN tell you is that it's from the an old game, Empire Earth!

Old game!? LOL I have the whole series! But when Microcrap removed the 32-bit iexplorer coding, now u can't play them! Unless u have a spare computer with Win 7 or an earlier version on it. My comp is an i7 6700 and I'mNOt upgrading for Win Crap 11! Wincrap 10 is bad enough!

 

[Maltazard]

Old game!? LOL I have the whole series! But when Microcrap removed the 32-bit iexplorer coding, now u can't play them! Unless u have a spare computer with Win 7 or an earlier version on it. My comp is an i7 6700 and I'mNOt upgrading for Win Crap 11! Wincrap 10 is bad enough!

I was about 10 when I used to spend afternoon after afternoon playing it, so it's been about 20 years... the "good" thing is that the game is now officially abaondonware, so it's nobody's business how someone manages to get the game to work! Emulate a virtual machine or use some fan made tool... if you still own the original CD you're allowed to play the game now in any way of format. More shameful is that they never bothered with a remaster like they did with the other golden oldies like Age of Empires, even though they may have gone too far with those. Copyright issues between the publisher and the developer apparently. Closest game to Empire Earth that still works and is purchaseable is probably Rise of Nations, just not quite as good overall imho.