SirJethro's DyP II - "The Emperor's New Mod"

[SirJethro]

Let's hold out for modern war vs. China. That should give conquest. Can't play till Monday. Anyone else?

one handed typing....sorry so short. daughter in lap.

 

[SirJethro]

Got it. Thursday morning is the last time I can play for 2 weeks at least, so hopefully we can squeeze the rounds out pretty quickly this week.....(I prefer to play in the mornings EST if you haven't figured that out yet)

 

[SirJethro]

Polynesia is gone and I finished what we started long ago with Tibet. Good luck

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First thing I do is (successfully) plant an agent in Polynesia. They have 3 cities, and 12 riflemen, and 1 clipper. 4 rifles per city. Prepare to slog it out....

I don't make any other changes....

Man...I'm still impressed by looking at China's navy.....

1892: China does quite a bit to soften up
Foghorn Leghorn: Hospital>Monestery
Dyed Pretty: Art>Nat'l Health Care
IOB: Fishery>Bank
SJ Farms: Park>Fishery
Malcomb: Windmill>Library
Chinese building Emancipation Proc. in Nanjing. How nice of them.....

China did quite a lot to soften up Ua Pou in the OT...bombed it with all of their ships. I hope the damage stuck and wasn't healed by a barracks. China also attacked Haraiki with 3 cavs and redlined all three, killing none. Here we go.

Battle for Ua Pou: Art does 3hp damage to 5hp rifle. 6hp cav defeats 3hp rifle (takes 3 damage). 6hp cav dies to 3hp rifle (does 1 damage). 6hp cav dies to 3hp rifle. Grr, was hoping to save the cruisers for Haraiki, but I'm gonna use a few here to make sure. I have 3 cavs left and I think they have 2 rifles (3hp and 2hp). Cruiser kills Guild Hall. Cruiser kills harbor (exactly what I DIDN'T want). Cruiser fails. Back to cavs. 6hp Cav defeats 3hp rifle and becomes elite (takes 2 damage). 6hp cav defeats 2hp rifle (takes 2 damage). There's another rifle. Arg...6hp cav dies to redlined rifle. 6hp rifle kills 1hp rifle. We take city with our last unit and kill their clipper. We capture their Slave Trade.

Battle for Harahiki: Cruiser kills citizens. Cruiser knocks 2hp off 6hp rifle. Cruiser kills barracks. Cruiser kills University. Cruiser knocks 2 hp off 6hp rifle. 6hp cav does 3hp damage to 6hp rifle and dies. 6hp cav does 4hp damage to 5hp rifle and dies. Grrr...6hp Cav does 3hp damage to 5hp rifle and retreats. 6hp cav does 3 hp damage to 5hp rifle and dies. At least now we are beyond the fully healed troops. 6hp cav does 1hp damage to 4hp rifle and retreats. 6hp cav defeats 4 hp cav (the turn of the tide!). I slip in attacking with a Cav and send him on a wild goose chase around the city...wasting his turn. GRRR. 6hp cav redlines 3 hp rifle, but dies. Elite cav defeats 3hp rifle. I mop up with our rifles (losing 2 of them) and take the city on the last hp of our last rifle. That was damn close....too costly for my taste, but we took the city. We took Magellan's Voyage as well.

After those two fights...we have 9 cav on the island, but most of them are hurting bad, so we'll have to bombard Manihi while they heal.

BTW...my preference would have been to take Haraiki last because of the palace defense bonus. No matter, though. Poly is going down. Manihi is on tundra instead of hills like these last two. That will help.

1894: China wants to renew the ROP for Iron. I don't give ROP, but I give Iron for 1825gp. Ethiopians request audience, want MPP (and GPT from us!!!). No way. I renew Incan ROP with Elephants.
Bear Butte: Hospital>Bank
Cottonton: Town Clock>Guild
Dyed Ugly: Factory>Park
Land 'o Plenty: Town Clock>Guild
NBI: Monastery>Summer Palace

Bombing Manihi: Cruiser kills: (1) citizens, (2) nothing, (3) nothing, (4) citizens, (5) 3hp on rifle, (6) academy, (7) BARRACKS, (8) citizens, (9) theatre.

I rush everything on Siam island.

1896: We complete Supreme Court!
Quokkaton: SC>Public School
Bangkok: Shrine>taxman
Marlboro: Tollhouse>Shrine
Nakhon Sawan: Harbor>Shrine
Ubon Ratch: Temple>taxman
SJ Stables: Hospital>Comm. Port
Khon Kaen: Temple>Taxman
Tuskany: Prison>Public School
Chiang Mai: Harbor>Taxman
Hat Yai: Taxman>Wiseguy
Goldron: Forge>Library

Our people add a small guest room to the palace.

WLTKs are ending everywhere. Folks are tired of this war.

I land all available forces outside Manihi. Right now they have 3 rifles, and one must have an offense flag because it is outside the city headed towards our city. It will fall next turn.

Bombing Manihi: Cruiser kills (1) 2 hp off 6hp rifle, (2) 2 hp off 5 hp rifle, (3) GARRISON, (4) failed, (5) 2hp off 4hp rifle, (6) guild, (7) failed, (8) harbor, (9) citizens.

I move lux slider up 10% to help with WW. I'll be glad to get out of this war next turn.

1898: Kalel: Stock Market>Wall Street
Sugar Bay: Battleship>Skyscraper (we need 5 of these for Empire St.)
Iron Mtn: Battleship>Fishery
Golden Blubber: Battleship>Public School
Malcomb: Library>Guild
Third Rock: Tollhouse>Windmill

We get most of our WLTK days back.

Bombing Manihi: Cruiser kills (1) citizens, (2) 1hp off 6hp rifle, (3) library, (4) port, (5) fail, (6) 2hp off 5hp rifle, (7) monument, (8) citizens, (9) 2hp off 5hp rifle. Artillery kills: (1) 2hp off 3hp rifle, (2) failed, (3) citizens, (4) failed.

Attacking Manihi: (1) 8hp Elite cav LOSES to 3 hp rifle. grrrr. (2) 6hp Elite cav beats 3hp rifle...no leader (no more elites). (3) Vet cav beats 1 hp rifle. Takes city. Polynesians have been destroyed.

Adjust slider for flight and bring lux back down 10%. Rush everything on Siam island and everything on Polynesian island except the city I just took. Change Wheat Thins from Bazaar to Basilica and rush (to get WLTKD).

I upgrade 2 clippers (we really do have more than we need) to transports for boating around workers.

1900: We lose our supply of silks, coffee. I add gems and tobacco to it and Mao agrees. We really are probably giving him too much...but it will be great when we go to war with him....he'll lose 6 luxuries!!!

Flight discovered. Unionization is next in 3 turns. Our Colossus, captured 2 turns ago, is no obsolete.
Quokkaton: Public School>Local History Museum
Haraiki: Taxman>Wiseman
Bangkok: Taxman>Wiseman
Bear Butte: Bank>Port
Marlboro: Shrine>Library
Foghorn Leghorn: Battleship>Monastery
Dyed Ugly: Park>Fishery
Nakhon Sawan: Shrine>Temple
Silvertusk: Hospital>Public School
Ubon: Taxman>Wiseman
Khon: Taxman>Wiseman
Tuskany: Public School>Local History
Chiang: Taxman>Wiseman
Fata: TAxman>Wiseman
Ua: Harbor>Taxman
IOB: Bank>University
Anyang: Shrine>Basilica
Wheat Thins: Basilica>Tollhouse
Hat Yai: Wiseman>Tollhouse
SS: Fishery>Windmill

I'm sending a 2 clipper invasion force to Tibet. They have 2 cities and only 2 spearmen. A 2 turn war won't hurt us.

1902: Bangkok: Wiseman>Tollhouse
Bear Butte: Port>Fishery
Manihi: Harbor>TAxman
Golden Blubber: Public School>Local History
Darwin: Commercial Port>Local History
Issachia: Port>Academy

1904: Chinese request audience. Want to trade world maps, I agree.
Cottonton: Guild>Sewer
Foghorn: Monastery>Public School
Ubon: Wiseman>Forge
LoPlenty: Guild>Fishery
Khon: Wiseman>Forge
Iron Mtn: Fishery>Public School
SJ Farms: Fishery>Public School
Salt Petersburg: Windmill>Academy

I delcare war on Tibet. I unload 3 cavs and 1 rifle outside each of the two cities. I'm not going to bombard since their units are so weak. I'd rather keep the city improvements.

1906: Unionization discovered. Totalitarianism in 5.
Haraiki: Wiseman>Temple
Silvertusk: Public School>Local History
IOB: University>Public School

Battle for Cozhe: 2 Vet Cavs and 1 Rifle take 2 spears and 1 elephant rider.

Battle for Kumbum: 1 Vet and 1 Elite Cav take city. No leader. Tibet is destroyed...just like that.

1908: Bear Butte: Fishery>University
Foghorn Leghorn: Public School>Local History
Dyed Ugly: Lost track of what it built>Hospital
Goldmember: Fishery>Factory
Iron Mountain: Public School>BAttlefield Med

1910: Quokkaton: Local History>Biplane
Eastport: Factory>Park
SJ Stables: CommPort>Public School
Tuskany: Local History>Biplane
Chiang Mai: Wiseguy>Temple
Fata: Wiseman>Academy
Salt Petersburg: Academy>Bazaar



HERE IS THE SAVE

 

[Quokka]

Sorry they took so long but I got busy. These will also be my last turns for about a week as I am going away for work for roughly a week. A pleasant surprise and good timing with your hols.

The rushed version
Inherited Turn

Bi-Planes?? They don’t have enough range to be useful on this map and carriers are nearly a full age away.
Quokkaton change from Bi-plane to Skyscraper, pre-build for Steel Foundry
Rush Forge in Marlboro for 190g
Rush Temple in Nakhon Sawan for 265g
Rush Forge in Ubon Rat…. for 235g
Rush Forge in Khon Kaen for 230g
Tuskany change from Bi-plane to Stock Exchange
Rush Barracks in Macao for 35g
Rush Town Clock in Rottnest for 150g
Rush Toll House in Wheat Thins for 120g
Rush Temple in Sara Buri for 200g
Rush Wind Mill in Third Rock for 260g
Rush Shrine in Denied for 130g

I I decided to see what I could renegotiate the Dyes deal with the Incas for, and we get 4gpt instead of 5gpt now.
Pollution strikes Foghorn Leghorn

1912
Bangkok Forge=>Temple
Bear Butte University=>Naval Base
Marlboro Forge=>Aqueduct
Kal-el WALL STREET=>Brokerage Firm
Nakhon Sawan Temple=>Wiseguy
Ubon Rat Forge=>Shrine
Khon Kaen Forge=>Shrine
Golden Blubber Local History=>National History
IOB Public School=>Hospital
Leo’s Retreat Factory=>Park
Macao Barracks=>Shrine
SJ Farms Public School=>Basilica
Rottnest Town Clock=>Basilica
Wheat Thins Toll House=>Port
Goldron Library=>Port
Salusa Secundus Wind Mill=>Town Clock
Sara Buri Temple=>Shrine
Third Rock Wind Mill=>Aqueduct
Denied Shrine=>Wiseguy

I Pollution strikes Tuskany

1914 Totalitarianism discovered, researching Communism in 4
Bear Butte Naval Base=>Stock Exchange
Kal-el Brokerage Firm=>Local History
Nakhon Sawan Wiseguy=>Tax Collector
Lo’P Fishery=>Port
Dyed Pretty NATIONAL HEALTH CARE=>Emancipation Proclamation
Darwin Local History=>Labor Union
IoDM Town Clock=>Temple
Rush Temple in Bangkok for 300g

1916
Bangkok Temple=>Wind mill
East Port Park=>Fishery
SJ Stables Public School=>Stock Exchange
Ua Pou Tax Collector=>Wiseman
SJ Farms Basilica=>Naval Base
Rush Shrine in Khon Kaen for 190g
Rush Shrine in Ubon Rat for 150g
Rush Shrine in Chiang Mai for 185g

Most of our cities go into WLTKD

I Pollution strikes Darwin

1918
Foghorn Leghorn Local History=>Commercial Dock
Nakhon Sawan Tax Collector=>Bazaar
Manihi Tax Collector=>Wiseman
Silvertusk Local History=>Naval Base
Ubon Rat Shrine=>Toll House
Lo’P Port=>Factory
Khon Kaen Shrine=>Toll House
Tuskany Stock Exchange=>Rifle
Chiang Mao Shrine=>Toll House
Leo’s Retreat Park=>Fishery
SJ Farms Naval Base=>University

The way the AI moves the Chinese navy is begging for it to get sunk.

I Pollution strikes Silvertusk

1920
Dyed Ugly Hospital=>Naval Base
Sugar Bay Skyscraper=>Fishery
Silvertusk Naval Base=>Battleship

I Renew RoP + Horses + Cotton for Olive Oil deal with Ethiopia
China builds the Emancipation Proclamation in Nanjing

1922 Communism discovered, researching Fascism in 4
Bear Butte Stock Exchange=>Public School
Cottonton Sewer System=>Fishery
Dyed Ugly Naval base=>Public School
Manihi Wiseman=>Shrine
Tuskany Rifle=>Rifle
Ua Pou Wiseman=>Shrine
IOB Hospital=>Battleship
Malcolm Guildhall=>Aqueduct
Denied Wiseman=>Tax Collector
Change Dyed Pretty to Local History
Change Quokkaton to Steel Foundry
Rush Shrine in Macao for 175g

1924
Kal-el Local History=>Public School
Dyed Pretty Local History=>Public School
Macao Shrine=>Wiseman
IoDM Temple=>Marketplace
SJ Farms University=>Hospital
Rottnest Basilica=>Guild Hall

1926
Bear Butte Public School=>Sewer System
East Port Fishery=>Sewer System
Tuskany Rifle=>Rifle
Salt Petersburg Bazaar=>Town Clock
Salusa Secundus Town Clock=>Bazaar

1928
Foghorn Leghorn Commercial Dock=>Stock Exchange
Kal-el Public School=>Battleship
Dyed Ugly Public School=>Commercial Dock
Sugar Bay Fishery=>Public School
Silvertusk Battleship=>Commercial Dock
SJ Stables Stock Exchange=>Rifle
Dyed Pretty Public School=>Rifle
Darwin Labor Union=>Public School
Leo’s Retreat Fishery=>Bank
Issachia Academy=>Aqueduct

1930 Fascism discovered, researching Automatic Weapons in 5
Tuskany Rifle=>Airship
Iron Mountain BATTLEFIELD MEDICINE=>Commercial Dock
IOB Battleship=>Commercial Dock

We are in the lull before we hit China with Tanks, not much going on.

SAVE

 

[Quokka]

Have you noticed that the GOTM is starting to look more like DyP than PTW?

 

[SirJethro]

Originally posted by Quokka
Have you noticed that the GOTM is starting to look more like DyP than PTW?

No, I haven't been paying attention to it. Have they been modding' it?

Got it.

 

[SirJethro]

BTW...I build biplanes for 2 reasons: upgrade path and recon. I don't use them so much for bombing, but I do like the recon ability quite a lot. We build them in 1 turn in some cities, so I'm going to build a few so we don't have to worry about jets down the road.

 

[SirJethro]

Since we are in such a lull and I'm in a bit of a rush today, I'm not going to report on every single build. I think we are on the same page for the most part with build order. I'll report the high spots....

IT: Change Tuskany from Airship (which I'm not a big fan of) to Bi-plane. I investigate the Chinese town of Pukapuka (where their furs are). It has no culture and is building rifles, meaning the furs outside their small radius will stay there for a while. Given that they won't pull the furs there into the city for a while, I'm going to colonize the fur next turn. Also, Inca's have sheep available. I give them Telephone for Sheep (I'm surprised they take a dead-end tech with a used-up wonder....).

1932: Complete Summer Palace on NBI (AI suggestion for next build is Winter Palace ).

1934: Inca wants to renew ROP for Elephants and I do.

1936: Complete Nat'l History Museum in GB. Nat'l Historical Society there in 1 turn. We catch Mao trying to steal.

1938: Automatic Weapons researched. Tank Warfare in 3 (50%, -157gpt). Nat'l Historical Society in GB. I upgrade 55 riflemen to African Infantry for 2200gp....man, they look wicked. Hmm...polution on the Big Island, but no workers there....I'll have to take some from our continent (we have pollution there this turn also).

1940: The Chinese silks/coffee deal comes up for renewal. I'm going to do so (for the last time). China goes to war in 20 turns. I set Winter Palace build in Bangkok. I've gotten it to 32 turns, but can probably improve that in a turn or two with workers. We've had quite a run of pollution...I've been so busy clearing on the continent (forest pollution) that I haven't had workers to spare to the Big Island, where there are two polluted tiles. grrr.

1942: Nothing important.

1944: TANKS!!! Submarine Warfare (and next era) in 3 turns. I enter WAR-TIME MOBILIZATION...it is time to ramp up for China. I'm keeping science cranked for right now since we are starting to mobilize...the new techs will give us more options.

1946: We have two airfields on two tiles on our continent that can't be used by cities. I'm using it to move Tanks to an airfield on the Siamese island.

1948: Tanks are really rolling off the line. I'm also building some trucks, and am going to build a few more transports. We need at least a couple transports of Laborers to be a part of our initial invasion force (to build airfields and RR). Trucks can then land on the newly built airfields on the same turn and land either infantry or more workers that will still be able to move that turn....(have I said how much I love modern war?)

1950: Submarines discovered. Our free tech was Guerrilla Warfare (4 turns), which allows us to upgrade those Mujadin and opens Amphibious Warfare as our next tech. Marines! As soon as we get about 12 tanks or so, switch full time to Marines (and trucks).
Quokkaton produces Steel Foundry...gets 143 spt.

This is my last turn for at least 2 weeks as I'm going on vacation and won't have access to it. I won't be reading the forums either, so you won't hear from me. When you can start back up in a week Quokka, see if you can pull anyone else in. If you can finish before I get back, more power to you. I'm not sure if you saw my post a page or two back regarding tips, etc. for modern war. Take a look at that if you didn't see it before, since this is the first time through for ya. GOOD LUCK!!!!





HERE IS THE SAVE

 

[Quokka]

Well I'm back and will have some time soon.

SJ, make sure you check out the DyP forums at CDGroup, Kal-el et al have been busy, 3 new builds and a complete civilopedia!

 

[Quokka]

Hard Drive crash, it'll be a little longer

 

[Tarkeel]

If you still want some more players, I'd love to take a few turns Would need latest DyP though...

 

[Bacon King]

lurker's comment: This game still alive?

 

[Quokka]

Yes it is.
Sorry about the delay Tarkeel. You don't need the latest version of DyP for this, we are using 1.10 build 5. You will need to be a beta tester to get even that version though. If you have it and the corresponding Spreadsheet go ahead an play next round, I'm about to play from here right now. You must have the 1.10b5 SS, the civilopedia is completely bogus for this build.

 

[Nder]

glad to see this game hasn't died.

 

[Tarkeel]

Not a beta tester, so only got what is available from the site (1.05)

 

[RobO]

Signing up as a beta tester is easy, if you want to do it. Link in my sig.

 

[SirJethro]

I'm back, but prob. won't be able to play for a few days. Quokka, looks like you got it soon. Hopefully we can finish this game up pretty quickly.

 

[Quokka]

Welcome back SJ. RL is just throwing up all sorts of clutter at the moment, but I will have my turn done hopefully by tonight or tomorrow.

 

[Quokka]

SJ can you do me a favour and post a copy of the PediaIcons.txt fro build 5. I have updated to build 9a and the its different enough that the game just crashes every time I try and load it.

 

[Kal-el]

Have you guys gotten the latest Civilopedia?

You can get it from the first post in the Announcements Page