So I'm no longer an Aquarius?! : New zodiac sign dates

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Brace for the worst: You may be a Virgo, scientists say.
There are many newspapers and websites that promise to tell your fortune, detailing where the planets were when you were born and what their future movements suggest about your future. It's called astrology, and whether or not you believe in the signs of the zodiac, you won't believe this: It's all wrong.

Astronomers with the Minnesota Planetarium Society have dropped a bomb on the zodiac, noting that thanks to the millennia-long effect of the moon's gravitational pull on the Earth, there's about a one-month bump in the alignment of the stars. The result?

"When [astrologers] say that the sun is in Pisces, it's really not in Pisces," Parke Kunkle, a board member of the Minnesota Planetarium Society, told the Star Tribune.
And if the sun isn't in Pisces, YOU'RE not in Pisces. Surprise! You're an Aquarius! New zodiac sign dates are in order, it seems.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011...apricorn-thanks-rotation-earth/#ixzz1AxzhC6YS

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Brace for the worst: You may be a Virgo, scientists say.
There are many newspapers and websites that promise to tell your fortune, detailing where the planets were when you were born and what their future movements suggest about your future. It's called astrology, and whether or not you believe in the signs of the zodiac, you won't believe this: It's all wrong.
Astronomers with the Minnesota Planetarium Society have dropped a bomb on the zodiac, noting that thanks to the millennia-long effect of the moon's gravitational pull on the Earth, there's about a one-month bump in the alignment of the stars. The result?
"When [astrologers] say that the sun is in Pisces, it's really not in Pisces," Parke Kunkle, a board member of the Minnesota Planetarium Society, told the Star Tribune.
And if the sun isn't in Pisces, YOU'RE not in Pisces. Surprise! You're an Aquarius! New zodiac sign dates are in order, it seems.
Much of astrology -- called an ancient and complex system that uses math and science to predict the future -- relies upon careful observation of the heavens. And your astrological sign is based on the date of your birth, something that was tied very tightly to the position of the heavens back in Babylonian times.
"When someone asks you what your sign is, they're referring to your Sun Sign -- where the sun was in the Zodiac at the exact moment of your birth," explains the website of noted astrologer Kelli Fox. As the years have worn on, the position of the heavens has shifted ever so slightly -- but those signs haven't.
Could this be true? Is an Aries really a Cancer -- or worse yet, a Virgo? It's a question for Paul the Psychic octopus, of course. But sadly, the soccer-predicting sea creature died last year. So we asked Kunkle for clarification.
"Ever since astrology began back in 3000 B.C., we've known there were problems with it," he said with a chuckle. "The ancient Babylonians had 13 constellations, for example, so they just threw one out."
Ophuchicus, or the snake holder, was ejected from the charts when the Zodiac was codified at the 12 we know of today, to align it more accurately with the calendar. And Libra didn't come into things until Julius Caesar's time, Kunkle told FoxNews.com.
Seeing stars yet? It all comes down to the 26,000-year precession of the planets through space, he said, noting that a variety of gravitational forces have changed the position of the planets in the sky over time.
Bottom line, the astrological forecasts we've all been turning to may -- gasp! -- not be accurate at all, or at least they may be intended for other readers.
"We're off by about 10 degrees or so, a twelfth of the way around," Kunkle said.
Indeed, most horoscope readers who consider themselves Leos are actually Cancers, explained the Star Tribune. So instead of being courageous, natural-born leaders, they actually are sensitive and emotional -- ruled by moodiness, not innate rulers.
And those folks who have for decades considered themselves Sagittarius, the sign governed by the truth-seeking archer and ruled by Jupiter, are actually Scorpios -- stubborn, passionate people ruled over by Mars and Pluto.
So read with a grain of salt when Sally Brompton advises the Aries that January’s midheaven Solar Eclipse will move you closer to a long-term goal, or that you must keep a sense of perspective, and be prepared to change course in midstream if necessary. Your real sign may just be Pisces, and her real forecast advises you that some mountains can be moved and others very definitely cannot -- your predicament this year is to try to distinguish between the two.
And Capricorns, rejoice! NO need to worry about over-reacting to pressure from the powers that be, as Brompton warns. Instead, turn to the forecast of Aquarius, and know that a major conjunction between wealth planet Jupiter and changes planet Uranus means fundamental adjustments to the way you handle your finances are likely this year.
But whatever you do, keep this in mind: All signs point to fulfilling and rewarding year. For Geminis, anyway.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011...apricorn-thanks-rotation-earth/#ixzz1AxzIGZ1H

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/01/11/age-aquarius-actually-age-capricorn-thanks-rotation-earth/


The new dates are:
Capricorn: Jan. 20-Feb. 16 <--- the hell, I used to be an Aquarius!
Aquarius: Feb. 16-March 11
Pisces: March 11-April 18
Aries: April 18-May 13
Taurus: May 13-June 21
Gemini: June 21-July 20
Cancer: July 20-Aug. 10
Leo: Aug. 10-Sept. 16
Virgo: Sept. 16-Oct. 30
Libra: Oct. 30-Nov. 23
Scorpio: Nov. 23-Dec. 17
Sagittarius: Dec. 17-Jan. 20

So whats your new sign, and what does this mean for all of us?
 
Astrologers are stubborn. They will continue to use the old dates, although some DO take precession into account.

In fact, some are already preparing for the day when humans live on other planets, adjusting horoscopes to be centered on that planet instead.

EDIT: I don't know how they'll react once, if ever, we manage to leave the solar system entirely.
 
Capricorn: Jan. 20-Feb. 16
Aquarius: Feb. 16-March 11
Pisces: March 11-April 18
Aries: April 18-May 13
Taurus: May 13-June 21
Gemini: June 21-July 20
Cancer: July 20-Aug. 10
Leo: Aug. 10-Sept. 16
Virgo: Sept. 16-Oct. 30
Libra: Oct. 30-Nov. 23
Scorpio: Nov. 23-Dec. 17
Sagittarius: Dec. 17-Jan. 20

What happened to the 20th of Dec to 20th of Jan?
 
Talk about old news. Astronomers and astrologers have both known about this for centuries!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axial_precession_(astronomy)

And the astrologers don't care because they're measuring the measuring the "First point of Aries" on the equinox, not against some actual star. The zodiac names are just a convenient shorthand.

That's what the Dawning of the Age of Aquarius was all about - remember? - where the first point of Aries (equinox) tracked back through Pisces to reach Aquarius.

Is this incontrovertible proof that Fox news is either gullible or simply centuries out of date?
 
This is no news. It is only a TV-station that want to make money by inventing news. This article only reinforces my view that Fox is most about entertainment and business, not to produce news based upon facts. To checking up facts before they publish something is not what Fox is known for. Astrologers have for ages known about this fact about the zodiac. Fox saying that we are entering the Age of Capricorn instead of the Age of Aquarius, they have not a clue what they are talking about. If we would follow the purely mathematical model as proposed, we would be in the Age of Pisces, not the Age of Aquarius.
 
But what about Ophiuchus!

Capricorn: Jan. 20-Feb. 16.
Aquarius: Feb. 16-March 11.
Pisces: March 11-April 18.
Aries: April 18-May 13.
Taurus: May 13-June 21.
Gemini: June 21-July 20.
Cancer: July 20-Aug. 10.
Leo: Aug. 10-Sept. 16.
Virgo: Sept. 16-Oct. 30.
Libra: Oct. 30-Nov. 23.
Scorpio: Nov. 23-29.
Ophiuchus: Nov. 29-Dec. 17.
Sagittarius: Dec. 17-Jan. 20.
 
This story made me look into how astrology "works" to discover what I knew all along, the media misreports "science"
 
So I get to be a Sagittarius now. Sweeeet. So much cooler than Capricorn; I feel even more noble than before! :3

Now, I doubt most Astrologists will recognise this, as it would invalidate their system.
 
This was pointed out to me years ago at university. Though I don't think the intention was for astrologers to realign their dates, but to point out the absurdity of their 'profession' built on lying to people for money.
 
This was pointed out to me years ago at university. Though I don't think the intention was for astrologers to realign their dates, but to point out the absurdity of their 'profession' built on lying to people for money.
Oddly enough, there are plenty of famous scientists who earned a little extra cash by doing astrology for their more lucrative and gullible clients. Galileo and Cassini are two that instantly spring to mind. :)
 
do we know how ancient peoples determined the constellation on the vernal equinox? The symbols vary in size so one "age" could be 2500 years while a smaller sign would last 1500 years. So did they "average" the 12 for 1 "Great Year" of ~26,000 years - or ~2160 years per sign? There's a theory that when Moses got mad at the people and their golden calf - Hathor/Ninharsag (the cow was 1 of her epithets) was goddess of the Sinai - it was because they had entered the age of the ram (Aries) and the people were still into bull worship. Jesus the fish (Pisces) came next, and we are near Aquarius now.
 
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