So, where are Kylorin and the Godslayer now?

[Nikis-Knight]

Hmm... Eve would continue to be a character even into the age of rebirth, of course. Could make for some interesting events, including some that might play out across multiple games... Maybe Kael should consider a fitting final end to the story?

 

[Mewtarthio]

I wonder if she'd ever end up joining the Sheaim. She's got a bit in common with Os-Gabella, in that neither can truly die until all of Erebus is destroyed. Unlike Os-Gabella, of course, Eve gets periodically reborn, so she doesn't have the crushing ennui of immortality holding her down, but if life on Erebus became sufficiently horrible, she might not want to be reborn. I could see some Sheaim cultists hunting her down, using a ritual to restore her memories of her past lives, and trying to convince her that the only way to break the cycle is to bring on Armageddon.

As for why they'd care: She's the wife of Kylorin, whom I presume was the first mage and a mighty emperor. She's bound to know a few things that would prove useful to an apocalyptic, knowledge-obsessed death cult.

 

[sylvanllewelyn]

I thought Kylorin was just an archmage with a very long life. I think it's said in some entry that he was powerful, but the difference in power between the archmages in the Age of Magic was such that any two archmages could've overpowered him. Something like that. I had no idea that he was the king of the first empire or something like that. And why would his empire then become corrupt? The archmages demanded wealth and sacrifice or something?

I'm assuming Kylorin died in his battle with Mulcarn. Pretty sure an angel has the power to kill him finally. Should be considered a fluke that he even won.

Can't blame Ceridwen really. The angels created a world with many desperate souls that would do anything she tells them to. That, and what evil things did she tell Os-gabella to do anyway? What, for defiance? If Kylorin is not dead, he might even join the Sheaim. That would be scary.

 

[zxcvbnm]

I thought Kylorin was just an archmage with a very long life. I think it's said in some entry that he was powerful, but the difference in power between the archmages in the Age of Magic was such that any two archmages could've overpowered him. Something like that. I had no idea that he was the king of the first empire or something like that. And why would his empire then become corrupt? The archmages demanded wealth and sacrifice or something?

He became evil because of his deal with Ceridwen

I'm assuming Kylorin died in his battle with Mulcarn. Pretty sure an angel has the power to kill him finally. Should be considered a fluke that he even won.

But he had the Godslayer, and nobody has found his body in the Letum Frigus

Can't blame Ceridwen really. The angels created a world with many desperate souls that would do anything she tells them to. That, and what evil things did she tell Os-gabella to do anyway? What, for defiance? If Kylorin is not dead, he might even join the Sheaim. That would be scary.

Ceridwen is the one to blame, as she joined Agares after all and we know the results. I don't think Kylorin would ever join the Sheaim, his guilt and repentance make it impossible

 

[xienwolf]

@Mew: Well, unless they managed to grant her memory of all her former lives she is just a normal girl. Over and over again. I doubt anyone but Kylorin would ever realize the connection since she could be born so far apart from her previous life, and most likely anyone close to her in one life is not going to be close to her (or even encounter her) in another. If they did, they would be shocked at how much she reminds them of another person they once knew, but it would have to happen quite a few times for anyone to start suspecting the truth (which means she'd have to have quite a few short lives, but long enough to leave an impression, while the other person would have to have a long life)


She wouldn't know that she is being continually reborn from what I have read. She is just the same soul, so the same outlook on life in general, which happened to not like what Kylorin did to the world after a couple dozen itterations.

@Sylvan: Kylorin was the FIRST mage. And founded the first empire of man. He was granted immunity to aging by Ceridwen and taught the mystical arts, then made to spread that knowledge and corrupt his once noble empire by his own hand.

 

[MagisterCultuum]

Epona did have some visions/dreams of her past lives though, so there is some memory that probably somehow remains, perhaps accessible only with the help of sorcery.

 

[xienwolf]

Never actually read her entry after having learned more of the Lore of FfH. Pretty cool. And it might be tied to proximity/discussion with Kylorin more than the magic.

 

[Seventh Star]

What exactly are the powers of the Godslayer, anyway?

 

[MagisterCultuum]

It has the power to kill a god/angel, which is an ability that no god/angel had on his own.

Actually, I think the precise wording I read somehwre made it sound like it only has the power to kill a god who swore to abide by the compact, placed him symbol on the blade, and them broke his oath. It may be that the godslayer doesn't really have any intrinsic power to kill a god, but collects on their oath to die if they ever break the agreement.

It also seems like this may mean that Cernunnos alone is immune to the godslayer, since he was not a god at the time and did not swear to the compact. He may then be the weakest of the gods, yet also the hardest to destroy.

 

[thomas.berubeg]

wouldn't the archangels technically be bound be the Pact taken by thier respective god? (so even if thier god dies or breaks the compact, they can still be bound by it, as well as individually fall)

 

[Ekolite]

Yeah so it would have applied if he was still an arch angel but now he's got his promotion it might not.

 

[zup]

Where's the Godslayer? Hand it over. I have a bone to pick with Cassiel.

 

[cyther]

The god slayer isn't that powerful. It effects gods more violently than archangels.

 

[KillerClowns]

The god slayer isn't that powerful. It effects gods more violently than archangels.

I'm sure it would be a pretty deadly sword against other creatures as well; I doubt the gods simply grabbed a rusty claymore from a farmer's shed and used that. It'd doubtless be physically powerful, made of Mithril at the very least, and more likely something morals don't even have a name for. Probably has plenty of power to spare, having gotten power from all 21 gods. Short version, I'd not mind having it about to hack up goblins. And even if it's an ordinary piece of metal against mortal creatures, it'd look pretty nice on the mantelpiece.

 

[orangelex44]

It's a stick. They called it a "Sword" to throw off mortals; everybody who really knows what's going on will tell you it's a stick buried in my back yard. And I can prove it - Kyorlin didn't manage to actually KILL Mulcarn, did he? Huh? HUH!?!?!?!

 

[Skitters]

I'm sure it would be a pretty deadly sword against other creatures as well; I doubt the gods simply grabbed a rusty claymore from a farmer's shed and used that. It'd doubtless be physically powerful, made of Mithril at the very least, and more likely something morals don't even have a name for. Probably has plenty of power to spare, having gotten power from all 21 gods. Short version, I'd not mind having it about to hack up goblins. And even if it's an ordinary piece of metal against mortal creatures, it'd look pretty nice on the mantelpiece.

I quite like the idea that it is a pretty ordinary looking sword that just happens to have been imbibed with the will of the Gods myself. Particularly if it has been "passed around like a common sword" as sylvanllewelyn put it.

That would fit with the image of the compact being agreed, grabbing a random sword and all the Gods subscribing to it there and then.

The alternative would be to have 21 Gods argue about the design of a sword, send it off to a master craftsman to make, then have the 21 Gods argue about the outcome and send it back to have added spangley bits because one of the Gods argues that if he's going to snuff it, then he/she doesn't want to die at the hands of a common looking sword. Then wait for a few days to reconvene because Bhall has a terrible migraine, and then try and round up the Fallen Angels who are having second thoughts about this compact thing...

That doesn't mean a common looking sword wouldn't have 'power' beyond being a metallic spikey thing

 

[Kael]

The godslayer was neither a sword enchanted by the gods or a sword sent out to be created by the gods. It is the manifestation of the gods agreement on the compact. When they together decided on it, that agreement was reflected physically in creation. That is the godslayer.

If the sword has any abilities outside of enforcing the compact, or if it is even a sword at all when it doesn't need to be isnt specified.

 

[cyther]

The godslayer was neither a sword enchanted by the gods or a sword sent out to be created by the gods. It is the manifestation of the gods agreement on the compact. When they together decided on it, that agreement was reflected physically in creation. That is the godslayer.

If the sword has any abilities outside of enforcing the compact, or if it is even a sword at all when it doesn't need to be isnt specified.

So it can appear as whatever it wants to be?
Also, could it appear as something besides a sword such as any weapon or even a person/animal if it wanted to?

 

[Kael]

So it can appear as whatever it wants to be?
Also, could it appear as something besides a sword such as any weapon or even a person/animal if it wanted to?

That has never been specified. We know that it was in 3 pieces at one point. It may be that something tragic happened to it or that it was symbolic of the 3 groups of gods (good/neutral/evil) opinions on the matter or it was an exercise that was intended to strengthen Kylorin and the Amurites so that they would be able do their part to kill Mulcarn.

Wether or not Mulcarn's defeat was inevitable the second he stepped into Erebus is undetermined. If Kylorin was a tool the godslayer used, or if the godslayer was a tool that Kylorin used is also unknown.

Remember Erebus is a world formed by the gods thoughts, action and desires. Even their unintended desires have influence. The horsemen are an unintended manifestation of the gods fears (the fall of the world into war, disease, death or heresy), the godslayer is a similiar effect but more potent because it involved all the gods.

 

[MagisterCultuum]

So, who was Finner and why was the Godslayer handed to him?

(Doesn't handing the Godslayer to him seem to imply that it was created and put in Erebus on purpose?)