So, will the Eu do anything about Turkey not allowing Cyprus to drill for natural gas?

[Hrothbern]

Kind of muddy situation.

Turkey has a rather assertive style of foreign affairs.
Erdogan using some extra sabre rattling around that Turkish referendum, upsetting the dormant EU.
And since the last month again more busy with some honey.
All the time testing and challenging the other Near East countries and the bigger and slower to react bigger entities. Not only the EU, but also the US and Russia.

The EU has made that refugee deal with Turkey.... binding her own hands !!!

Erdogan is like an opportunisic player.
Not easy for a trade union to react to
(that trade union status the only active policy thing that has a broad consensus between EU members)
the non-trade geopolitical instrument of the EU is in practice the NATO
And there Turkey has another trump card: her geographic position towards Russia, although that leverage is diminishing by better military technologies (Carriers and the US base in Qatar).

Whatever is put into going by the EU will take, I guess, a long time

 

[r16]

heroism of New Turkey is all that matters . Greeks "plot" with sending the ship into drilling zone . Alone , instead of 3 frigates . Could easily get an Israeli corvette as well . Showing Turkey in a bad way doesn't count , because "aggression" shows New Turkey in a "good" way . See , the Czechs even captured the formed leader of the Syrian branch of the seperatists , so the Minister responsible for EU matters can say New Turkey can fight its enemies across the globe instead of ordering the EU to realize the Varna talks between them and the PM , apparently at the end of March .

and oh my , have you heard about the newest USN carrier ? Electromagnetic catapults . Glorious and when it fails they wait for an hour and a half for it to cool down and something so that they can start searching what the hell is wrong again ...

 

[r16]

me like trolling people with the repeated posts ? Sorry about it , but ...


honest to God this can not be possible . Security clearances must have started a month before . Yeah , after this little mockery of the glorious electromagnetics of America on Monday , Tuesday's newspapers come full with the Turkish journos descending on Patuxent River , Pax River to propellerheads , the test centre of the USN , where they are shown the gloriously amazing F-35 . And they are not shown the most recent addition to the amazingly glorious weapon inventory of the gloriously amazing and trail blazing F-35 ; namely Teleportation . The F-35 pilot f_rts and that's actually a serious word in Swedish , meaning speed , learned from a Roy Braybrook piece and the resulting mass of stuff is beamed right into the oxygen mask of the enemy pilot , currently over a maximum range of 5500 kilometers . Area 51 busy on improvements , too , they will also transport a lighter in ground attacks , in case the dear reader has even seen any American youth comedy movies and the like . No , sir , it's so humble , so reticient . Corrosion happens to any plane and they haven't yet solved the mysterious ongoings with the oxygen system . ı take this to be a new fangled device , better than the onboard oxygen generator stuff the Teen jets have used in the last 4 decades . Expected to be so dependable and reliable that its controls were placed in a place where the F-22 pilot could not justifiably reach or something during flight , causing the first fatality in that programme , too . We even learn the Footpad is so easy to learn , F-16 pilots to convert in 6 weeks . ı don't know what happened to all analysts of the famed American Navy with like stuff converting to F-16 from the Footpad like takes 18 weeks .


oh , ı don't like that at all . Actually like a full decade ago elsewhere on the web ı said "over my dead body" ... There were actually people who hated to hear we were generous and wouldn't ask for the money repaid . Most relevantly to the thread , '35B now also pushed on , because let me see , that Spanish designed Amphibious Ship is a full aircraft carrier and needs airpower . See , New Turkey will now be able to stop Italian drilling off Sicilia as well . Don't know why this was necessary . Now that the Turkish TVs once like famously said Turkish F-16s can reach Rome in 15 minutes flat . Italians once had rented F-16s and their pilots trained here and they know their way here and am pretty sure none of them could arrive in Ankara in less than 2 hours , but ı digress . Why do we need Power Projection again ? That was always most undesirable when "Muslims" were mostly for beating anti 6th Fleet demonstrators , wasn't it ? You know , the second or third or fourth hand planes arrving as NATO aid and like without a full complement of drop tanks and arguments starting and the final result was if people don't like , they are free to pay and buy elsewhere . So , this is like 60s and some poor Indian attachee in Washington is like "What!!?" when the mail brings a formal proposal to buy all the Liberators their Navy is flying as patrol planes ... And , you know , only to hurt Greeks , no Arms Embargo in sight ... Becoming tiresome for me to write and you people to read , but America loves "Muslims" .

 

[Kyriakos]

Funny you didn't mention how fast the turkish navy run away when a single Total-run french ship showed up. Very brave

That said, it's not like we need anyone's help to sink the entire turkish navy, cause it sort of sucks. I suppose it is also why even after this clown gov's rhetoric that 'next time there will be a non-peaceful response', Turkey stopped sending ships to greek waters. Most brave, again.

 

[Silurian]

Turkey stopped sending ships to greek waters.

Turkey invaded because of talk about unification of Cyprus with Greece.
Obviously the waters were Cypriot not Greek.
I can not see how claiming that Cyprus is part of Greece when it is a completely separate country will help resolve the partition.

 

[Kyriakos]

Turkey invaded because of talk about unification of Cyprus with Greece.
Obviously the waters were Cypriot not Greek.
I can not see how claiming that Cyprus is part of Greece when it is a completely separate country will help resolve the partition.

Ehm, did you think for a moment i meant "greek waters" when i said "greek waters", then?
Ie waters of the country, Greece.

Tldr: Turkey doesn't only try to pester Cyprus, don't worry.

 

[Broken_Erika]

Turkey only wants all the lands that they held at the height of the Ottomon empire.....

 

[innonimatu]

Tbh I don't what the EU to have the power to do anything about this. It is a matter for governments and the UN. But ever since Iraq was invaded the UN turned into an absolute nullity. I guess that was another mission accomplished.

 

[Kyriakos]

Tbh I don't what the EU to have the power to do anything about this. It is a matter for governments and the UN. But ever since Iraq was invaded the UN turned into an absolute nullity. I guess that was another mission accomplished.

They were asked to ban weapons trade. Of course this would make some noble Eu countries to lose money, so they don't want to. Human rights, ethics, "union" and all that< money and being scum
As usual, the only good thing is that we do have a relatively serious army, so aren't at the mercy of the eu on this.

 

[r16]

new Turkey does everything in the right way . Call Merkel Nazi , see trade improve .

and yes while am wasting a good opportunity for some rant , the supposed Neo-Ottomanism is just a stepping stone for Qatar owning some land . This is what owning a trillion or two cubic meters or something of hydrocarbons . And it doesn't always work . See , the dude form South Nicosia even says they are ready to talk if Turkish troops leave and no more guarantees for the Turkish Cypriot bunch . See , ı have a couple of methane lakes on Titan . Or something .