It's not about it being "better". Its just cheaper/easier/ more straightforward to implement. Planting community gardens, working out, creating art, childcare, for example all would require more investment, training and resources. Banning self-serve, thus requiring gas stations to hire attendants requires no investment. The pumps are already there, the labor is already there, needing "low skill" jobs.
There are also people who just really need a job and for whatever one or more, of a myriad possible reasons, do not yet have and/or cannot obtain the necessary qualifications, credentials or experience to get a job other than a "low skill" job. There are lots of people like that, and its worthwhile to create opportunities for them to be able to easily enter and/or remain in the workforce, rather then pushing them out by automating/self-serve'ing everything.
That's nonsensical. And it's not about it being "not real", it's about it "not adding enough value to justify the existence of the job".
That's a terrible comparison, because these jobs are viewed badly not because they are seen as useless but because they are seen as morally dubious. There is no moral quandary about doing something useless for money. There is serious ones about doing something evil for money.
Maybe, but that's just you projecting here.
No, that's him explaining something to you about the US, which might not be the case in France. If you want to rely on logic, rely on it. Don't indulge in the easy way out just because of personal motivations r.e. who's posting.
Something else, besides @Valka D'Ur 's point about the usefulness of gas station attendants... I can remember numerous occasions in New Jersey when I would pull up to the gas station in sub-freezing temps with frigid breezes going and thank my lucky stars that it was full-service gas. It is freaking awesome to be able to stay in your warm car, (and to a lesser degree your air conditioned car of those 90 degree days) instead of having to get out to pump your own gas. Sure, its less awesome to be the attendant out there freezing your a** off, but you certainly aren't "useless".
You should get the muscle memory by the 2nd time you do it.
I'm not pro-hustle, that's wack too, burning yourself out for some movement or company is dumb but lying flat is defeatist, imo. I'm minimalist & lazy but I hate being a victim & I like being in control (not living in someone else's house, etc).
I'm a contemptuous person also. I suspect I agree on 90+% of important things with those who I bicker with but the 10% are important. And like you said on the internet it's easy to be a dick which I'm not proud of. I try to stop but then someone says something snarky and... well you know how it goes.
I think this has more to do with taxes, not 100% sure
That's cool. I used to be a bike messenger when I was 20. It was pretty dumb but a nice rush. That definitely made me feel like I was earning my money but was draining as well.
It’s one thing to have a choice to either have an attendant or pump your own gas. It’s another to have laws barring self-service. I’d likely only use an attendant service if temperatures reaches below 40°F.
Before landing a job as a machinist, I felt that my work shoving shopping carts and dealing with cranky customers, and horse
from managers at Home Depot is not valid nor was their any dignity and honor in it. In fact it felt degrading that I was doing a job I would have done when I was still in high school or college (it was a part time minimum wage job without benifits), not something for a 30-something for seven years. The only thing that got me through the day were friendly and sympathetic co-workers and customers. I finally had had enough when I had a fight with the manager on duty who reassigned me to lot duty perminately because he believed the person kissing his butt that “I wasn’t pulling my weight and thought I’d be ‘fair’ to put me in the lot” and accused me of listening to my music all day. I ended up pulling myself up by my bootstraps (I was already getting frustrated at not getting bites on getting a better job for 13 years) and applied for a machinist position and I was very fortunate not only be offered the position but also go through the manufacturing pipeline that’s hosted by the state to learn the trade (the condition for the job offer was to pass the machinist classes and I was already motivated to escape retail hell). If you ask me if my current job (machinist) is valid, and has dignity and honor in it. I would enthusiastically say yes since I’m working full time, rebuilding my life that was shattered by the Great Recession, have benefits, and a Union that would have my back if any managers and/or supervisors try to pull the same horse the managers at Home Depot did.It’s one thing if it’s on the short term. It’s another if you’re stuck with it long term where it becomes degrading, depressing, and soul crushing. Especially if you’re not getting any bites on your job application for a better paying job and your life’s goals fades away as time passes by (With Home Depot, it’s impossible to work your way up unless the manager likes you or have a liking for kissing the manager’s butt). I don’t see how being treated like
can enrich someone. The only empowerment I’ve ever gotten was the motivation to get out of that crappy job by any means necessary. Even if it meant learning a skilled trade (which I was fortunate to take advantage of when I was offered my current job). It’s only now that I feel enriched and empowered in my current job is because I’m paid and treated well. If I had a chance to do my education over again, I would have gone to a local community college to learn a trade to avoid spending my 20s and 30s in retail hell with a useless college degree.
But the job of retail sales should have dignity to it, and to you. There’s nothing inherently degrading in it, it’s a bad company, bad management, bad labor conditions. But the occupation itself deserves as much respect as the people doing it.
I don't see a whole lot of conflict between what you are saying and what I've already said.It’s one thing if it’s on the short term. It’s another if you’re stuck with it long term where it becomes degrading, depressing, and soul crushing. Especially if you’re not getting any bites on your job application for a better paying job and your life’s goals fades away as time passes by (With Home Depot, it’s impossible to work your way up unless the manager likes you or have a liking for kissing the manager’s butt). I don’t see how being treated like
The taxes in NJ are pretty high compared to other states, even neighboring states, so I guess you could interpret that either way...but if that's a cause of it then that just proves the point doesn't it?
Ideally they should. But they’re not meant to be a career. It’s a reason why they have a high turnover rate. Before I quit my last job, I encouraged my other coworkers who are disgruntled to look into jobs where I got hired at and look into the pipeline program to pick up a skilled trade.
The issue that I have is referring to low skilled part time jobs as “valid, dignity, honor, enrichment, and empowerment” when they’re in reality degrading, depressive, and soul crushing. When you’re perpetually underemployed in a part time minimum wage job for a decade, you see things differently.
I think the problem here (and correct me if I'm wrong), is that the degradation, soul-crushingness, and so on, comes from the material conditions surrounding the job. It doesn't have to come from the job itself.
The game "The Long Dark" makes a specific point of opening with a disclaimer/startup-message that it is "Made without crunch by people who care about players at a studio that cares about people".
You're missing something here. Part of why you don't see many full-serve pumps where self-serve is legal goes back to what @RobAnybody said... if he has a choice as a consumer, he's picking self-serve. So its not correct to say that the fact that most gas stations are self serve is because its cheaper to be self-serve versus full-service. Its not necessarily cheaper to be self-serve, but in an environment where other gas stations are self-serve, you have pressure to be self-serve as well, or else you lose business to the self-serve stations. In a system where self-serve is not allowed, its possibly cheaper to be full-service. Again, New Jersey seems to prove this.
