Some Interesting Statistics

Originally posted by Flatlander Fox
What's with the humiliation Pelly? It can't be worse then being a NewFie can it?:D

See....now is a time I regret giving up being a Super MOD. Because I'd ban your ass for that. :p

Oh wait...I can still ban. :)

But the thing about Newfies.....is that we can take a joke. Newfies help spread newfie jokes...and we enjoy being talked about.

However....I don't take them as well as most. ;)

But I will let it slide.

And to show my piece, I leave you with this joke:
An Englishman, Irishman, and Newfie were on a trip to a desert.
They could only bring one thing. Once they got there someone asked each of them what they brought and why.
The Englishman brought a water bottle full of water. So when it gets hot, he will have something to drink.
The Irishman brought an umbrella. So when it gets too hot, he can protect himself from the sun.
The Newfie brought a Car Door. So when it gets hot, he can roll down the window.

:D

Ahhhh...Newfie intelligence.
 
Originally posted by rmsharpe
In a capitalist system, I know that at least I can RETURN my light bulbs :enlighten

Have you tried it?

I love buying a new $150 Printer.

Only to find out that it had already been opened. The scanner bed unlocked. The book and CD's used.

Yep...Capitalism. Sell what every you can regardless of quality.

Buyer Beware!!
 
Actually, I have. It sux but at least I have options on what KINDS of used stuff I can buy :lol:
To be fair, its not the best but its better than the alternatives. Besides, I'm too lazy to come up with something better. I'd rather gripe about it :D
 
Originally posted by TubaGuy
When the Soviet union Colectivized the farms the workers were paid a small, flat wage and only allowed to keep as much food as they needed (as dictated by basic communist theory). Toward the end the government allowed farmers to work on small plots of land that they were able to keep all of the food and keep all of the profits they made selling it as long as they only worked on those plots after they were off work from the government owned plots. Guess what plots the farmers worked harder on and ultimatly produced more crops.

Interesting fact: 95% of the food produced in the U.S.S.R. was produced on the 5 acres of land that was permitted for private use.
 
Originally posted by rmsharpe
Interesting fact: 95% of the food produced in the U.S.S.R. was produced on the 5 acres of land that was permitted for private use.

I refuse to believe that.

Not because of the private use thing.

But the fact that 5 acres can outproduce a country. Regardless of motivation....that's not possible.

Unless the public land was only 4 arces. ;)
 
Originally posted by rmsharpe
Interesting fact: 95% of the food produced in the U.S.S.R. was produced on the 5 acres of land that was permitted for private use.

I also find this hard to believe because 5 acres is minuscule. I'd think there were more farmers in the USSR than you could fit standing up on 5 acres.
 
Originally posted by prefect42
imagine an entirely Green Congress. . .it'd be. . .beautiful!

The government would come to a standstill because they'd all be high on pot! :lol:

It's like this past Sunday's Simpsons episode: "Why do they call them fingers if they don't fing? Oh, there they go." -Otto
 
O.k., O.k. I don't wanna get banned, so I'll stop the NewFie thing...:p

Pelly needs to let me know about the humiliation thing though!

And while taxes are WAAAYY too high in Germany, I like their system of health care and some of the other benifits that the government provides.

I DO NOT like the welfare system there, as it only reduces the options of the people recieving it. I also am not big on spas and other recreational activities for members of the government. But that's everywhere, and it seems that nothing can REALLY be done about it.
 
Apollo and CornMaster mixed up what I said --

I meant 5 acres of land per each of the farmers with (X) amount of land (don't ask me how much you had to have, that I don't know...)

But it was the private fields that did produce 95% of the U.S.S.R.'s food.
 
I figured that was what he meant. I too have seen that statistic, or one close to it. I don't know where, but likely either a history book, or magazine article.

:)
 
Originally posted by Flatlander Fox

I agree with the corruption thing, and never understand why NOTHING can seem to be done about it.:(

NOTHING can get done about it because Republicans....and more than a few greedy Democrats.....shoot down any and every attempt made at getting all of the $$$$$$$ out of government.

There are always excuses, but the fact is they would prefer to keep a system where policy is dictated by CEO's and special interest groups.

Its our own fault because we keep voting the same crooks into office.
 
A-americans who belive thier country is 100% perfect, like archie bunker, are arrogent.

B-PEI is stupid. I HATE anne of green F***** Gables, I HATE patatoes {and fries too!} and I HATE lobster. I HATE PEI... but, its easier to get into politics here then anywhere else in canada, and I wanna be PM, so I'm stuck here...

and C
what was c?

C-I want a girlfriend. a blonde one.
 
Originally posted by Pellaken
B-PEI is stupid. I HATE anne of green F***** Gables, I HATE patatoes {and fries too!} and I HATE lobster. I HATE PEI... but, its easier to get into politics here then anywhere else in canada, and I wanna be PM, so I'm stuck here...

and C
what was c?
C-I want a girlfriend. a blonde one.

Wow, I hit a nerve there, didn't I?

At any rate, I wouldn't wish Anne of Green Gables on anyone - except PEI, of course. But if you are that eager to get into politics, Pellaken, maybe I will feel charitable after exposing the world to AofGG and if you write offline and ask nicely, and say a few kind words about Bosnian federalism, then I will reflect on my rare experience of having worked with four or five odd political parties and let you in on a few secrets.

One of which is this: let me assure you that PEI is NOT the best route in, if in is what you want. I don't want to be reduced to bragging and all to persuade you, but I have seen a few serious political encounters in my 10 years in the business and staying in PEI because the seats are small is the WRONG way to go about it.

What you really need to do is bounce checks like the guys at the beginning of this thread.

Really!

I'll explain.

But only if you put the little hat with the bow-ribbon on. Be fair - it IS a PEI tradition.

R.III
 
Originally posted by Richard III


Wow, I hit a nerve there, didn't I?

At any rate, I wouldn't wish Anne of Green Gables on anyone - except PEI, of course. But if you are that eager to get into politics, Pellaken, maybe I will feel charitable after exposing the world to AofGG and if you write offline and ask nicely, and say a few kind words about Bosnian federalism, then I will reflect on my rare experience of having worked with four or five odd political parties and let you in on a few secrets.

One of which is this: let me assure you that PEI is NOT the best route in, if in is what you want. I don't want to be reduced to bragging and all to persuade you, but I have seen a few serious political encounters in my 10 years in the business and staying in PEI because the seats are small is the WRONG way to go about it.

What you really need to do is bounce checks like the guys at the beginning of this thread.

Really!

I'll explain.

But only if you put the little hat with the bow-ribbon on. Be fair - it IS a PEI tradition.

R.III

There is some really good humor in here, but because I am not familier with AofGG (I looked at the link, but I'm not digging through it) and I don't fully understand what is so horrible about PEI, I think I am missing a lot of it. Small seats? Hat with the bow-ribbon? :confused: I know that is funny, I just don't know how.

A-americans who belive thier country is 100% perfect, like archie bunker, are arrogent.

And what has this got to do with anything? :confused:

Way too much going on up north I'm not getting.
 
Originally posted by rmsharpe
Apollo and CornMaster mixed up what I said --

I meant 5 acres of land per each of the farmers with (X) amount of land (don't ask me how much you had to have, that I don't know...)

But it was the private fields that did produce 95% of the U.S.S.R.'s food.

Ahhhh.....That makes a little more sense. :)

TY for straighting that out. :)
 
Originally posted by knowltok2
There is some really good humor in here, but because I am not familier with AofGG (I looked at the link, but I'm not digging through it) and I don't fully understand what is so horrible about PEI, I think I am missing a lot of it. Small seats? Hat with the bow-ribbon? :confused: I know that is funny, I just don't know how.

Way too much going on up north I'm not getting.

Re: that last remark, don't be so sure!

#1. Anne. I could go on for awhile, but it makes me sick, so just let me put it this way:

Imagine Little Women turned into a stupid girly fad! Imagine the fad is still alive decades later! Imagine, an entire Island crawling with stupid references to this girl in a little hat and frilly dress and her "adventures," which make the Hardy boys look cosmopolitan and urbane! Green gables is some pastoral little farm on PEI, and the entire Island is (supposedly) crawling with theme stores, gas stations named after AofGG characters and other obscene references to this annoying little girl and her cult. I say supposedly because on MY Island, we have had enough comparably masculine pursuits that I was never tempted to go to THEIR Island on the other side of the country.

I worked in the tourism industry in Victoria, and you see a lot of Japanese tourists there. And the wierd thing is, Japanese girls LOVE anne of green gables. They're hooked. When I met Japanese girls (mmmmm) travelling in Victoria and asked where in our vast country they were going, the answer was almost always:

1. Victoria, where they were, to see the fake Englishness (which is actually the wrong reason to see Vancouver Island, the natural stuff is much better)
2. Across the Rockies by train
3. Flying from Calgary or Winnipeg direct to PEI to see Anne of Green Gables stuff.

It was SPOOKY, man. They were all yakking about AoGG like she was their idol or something.

And the CBC has made far too many smarmy shows from the books, so unsuspecting males accidently run into it while wondering watch to watch when hockey season is over.

#2. The small seats - it's actually not that funny. Canada's constitution is descended from the British North America Act, or BNA act. Trudeau's biggest claim to fame was "repatriating" or moving control of amendment of that Act from Britain's parliament to ours, which unbelievably only happened in 1982, fifty years after the Statute of Westminister made Canada nominally independent from the Empire and over a century after Confederation.

Anyhow, my point is that the BNA act was written on the assumption that Canada was a confederation of only five colonies - Ontario, Quebec, PEI, New Brunswick and Nova Scotia. And, as part of the deal, Prince Edward Island was guaranteed four seats in the House of Commons, regardless of population. Back then, the House was small, and this made sense. But now there are ten provinces, and the nation's population has far outstripped any model which could accommodate four seats for the tiny province, which only has about 200,000 people. But four seats they still retain.

Pellaken is from PEI, and the only rational reason anyone would beleive that PEI is a good political launching pad is because it would be - theoretically - easy to win an election in such a tiny seat if you happened to be a quick hand at retail politics. In my experience, all this really does is make it cheaper to buy votes. But a small population in one riding doesn't make it any easier to reach Pellaken's dream of political statesmanship, because national politics in Canada is driven by the same things as anywhere else: fame (e.g. big media markets) and resources (e.g. pork and $$$).

And you don't get either by being the MP from Summerside, no matter what party you're from, because Canada is highly polarized regionally and where you're from actually becomes a major issue in judging how attractive a choice you might be for higher office. If you're from Toronto, it's assumed you're a bastard, and other Ontarians are slightly less awful. If you're from Quebec, well, that's good, particularly if you are from there but talk alot about how you can keep those guys in line. If you're from Alberta, well you MUST be a fascist. And B.C.? Kook, fringe material. The last two PMs from BC both lasted less than six months. Everywhere else? Don't be ridiculous! I can count the number of modern PMs from the other provinces on my nose, literally.

So, to summarize today's humiliation, Prince Edward Island is famous for four things, two of them unique. Lobster and french-fry quality potatoes are the non-unique parts. The unique ones are Anne of Green Gables and the fact that Confederation was negotiated in the diminutive capital of the Island. over 130 years ago. If it wasn't for the Anne of Green Gables thing, though, no one would know PEI existed. And that's pretty humiliating if you ask me. Where I come from, the national identity is determined by the quality of pot they grow (world's best, or so The Economist says :D), rich native cultures (the Haida and Salish) that invented the Totem Pole, snowboarding, sailing, skiing, decent rugby players, big forests, hardcore loggers, the world's most rabid environmentalists, Michael J. Fox, the X-Files, Louisiana-style politics, superb smoked salmon, a reference in the official words of Monty Python's "the lumberjack song" and a legendary laid back attitude.

On the other hand, Pellaken can draw on the experiences of a little girl with a funny hat to inspire him.

It's enough to make a guy become a civfanatic, isn't it?

R.III
 
Originally posted by Richard III
And that's pretty humiliating if you ask me. Where I come from, the national identity is determined by the quality of pot they grow (world's best, or so The Economist says :D), rich native cultures (the Haida and Salish) that invented the Totem Pole, snowboarding, sailing, skiing, decent rugby players, big forests, hardcore loggers, the world's most rabid environmentalists, Michael J. Fox, the X-Files, Louisiana-style politics, superb smoked salmon, a reference in the official words of Monty Python's "the lumberjack song" and a legendary laid back attitude.

R.III

Join the club :beer: I'm 5 minutes down the highway from #1 ;)

So Pelly, I can count on having extensive background information gathered from a year's worth of posts at CFC to smear you and your fellow loonies (Svend anyone? :p) in pursuit of governanceship in my daily column 30 years down the road? :D Excellent...
 
Originally posted by Cunobelin Of Hippo
:D Excellent...

So was that a ragular "excellent", or a Mr. Burns "Excellent" with the finger motions? :D

Originally posted by Richard III
Where I come from, the national identity is determined by the quality of pot they grow (world's best, or so The Economist says ), rich native cultures (the Haida and Salish) that invented the Totem Pole, snowboarding, sailing, skiing, decent rugby players, big forests, hardcore loggers, the world's most rabid environmentalists, Michael J. Fox, the X-Files, Louisiana-style politics, superb smoked salmon, a reference in the official words of Monty Python's "the lumberjack song" and a legendary laid back attitude.

Michael J. Fox? I didn't know that. And thanks for keeping those Haida under control. Before you guys got there they'd always come down and raid the shoreline. Of course the native groups here would just go inland and not leave anything for the Haida to take. :p

And I also didn't know there had been Canadian prime ministers from BC. I thought you people were smart enough to know to stay away from politics. It must be all that BC Budd...
 
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