Something that always confused me.

[aimeeandbeatles]

Where I live, there's a rule saying you're not allowed to deny someone an apartment rental soley on their age or family status. (I remember once getting mad at it because little kids are annoying and you can't legally get a kid-free apartment.)

So, then, why are senior-citizen complexes allowed? They don't rent to anyone under 55. So isn't that a direct violation? Why the exemption?

Thoughts? Are there similar rules where you live?

 

[Silurian]

You get that in the UK as well.

But do you want people complaining about everything you do

 

[squall78]

Probably the iron fist of the AARP (their commercial screams DONT MESS WITH OLD PEOPLE). Actually it might be a law that allows exclusive rights to the elderly, or disabled.

 

[History_Buff]

So, then, why are senior-citizen complexes allowed? They don't rent to anyone under 55. So isn't that a direct violation? Why the exemption?

Nobody has tried to challenge them in court?

If you applied and were rejected, you could likely sue them (not for money of course, this being Canada and all, but the court could force them to not reject you).

There's some counter arguments they could likely provide given Section 1 of the Charter, but I'd say you'd have a non-zero chance of winning.

 

[Valka D'Ur]

Where I live, there's a rule saying you're not allowed to deny someone an apartment rental soley on their age or family status. (I remember once getting mad at it because little kids are annoying and you can't legally get a kid-free apartment.)

So, then, why are senior-citizen complexes allowed? They don't rent to anyone under 55. So isn't that a direct violation? Why the exemption?

Thoughts? Are there similar rules where you live?

You mean your municipality/province doesn't allow adult-only apartment buildings?

Around here, there are lots of "no kids" apartment buildings.

 

[aimeeandbeatles]

You mean your municipality/province doesn't allow adult-only apartment buildings?

Around here, there are lots of "no kids" apartment buildings.

That's what the thing said.

 

[NovaKart]

I wish they had these laws in Turkey. Most places in Turkey will flat out not rent to single people, especially single men. They will tell you this upfront. There's no such thing as equal housing rights in this country.

 

[Valka D'Ur]

Where do they expect single people to live? Or is Turkey a country that expects everybody to be married?

 

[NovaKart]

I suppose the landlords just don't care as long as it's not in their apartment. Most single people live with their parents until they get married and for those that don't, which is normally because they have a job or study in another city, it's very difficult to find a place but it can eventually be done if you're persistent. Turkey really does need to make laws against housing discrimination.

 

[History_Buff]

Where do they expect single people to live? Or is Turkey a country that expects everybody to be married?

I expect it's that they expect everyone to be married, unless you're living a life of debauchery. Until marriage, live with your parents.

 

[7ronin]

Although the Fair Housing Act was amended in 1988 to prohibit discrimination on the basis of disability and familial status, Congress intended to preserve housing specifically designed to meet the needs of senior citizens. Housing that meets the FHAct definition of housing for older persons is exempt from the law's familial status requirements, provided that:


•HUD has determined that the dwelling is specifically designed for and occupied by elderly persons under a Federal, State or local government program or
•It is occupied solely by persons who are 62 or older or
•It houses at least one person who is 55 or older in at least 80 percent of the occupied units, and adheres to a policy that demonstrates intent to house persons who are 55 or older.
Therefore, housing that satisfies the legal definition of senior housing or housing for older persons described above, can legally exclude families with children.

 

[squall78]

Although the Fair Housing Act was amended in 1988 to prohibit discrimination on the basis of disability and familial status, Congress intended to preserve housing specifically designed to meet the needs of senior citizens. Housing that meets the FHAct definition of housing for older persons is exempt from the law's familial status requirements, provided that:


•HUD has determined that the dwelling is specifically designed for and occupied by elderly persons under a Federal, State or local government program or
•It is occupied solely by persons who are 62 or older or
•It houses at least one person who is 55 or older in at least 80 percent of the occupied units, and adheres to a policy that demonstrates intent to house persons who are 55 or older.
Therefore, housing that satisfies the legal definition of senior housing or housing for older persons described above, can legally exclude families with children.

I was right. Give me a cookie

 

[aimeeandbeatles]

Yes, but why should that be allowed? What makes senior citizens so special?

 

[cardgame]

"But she's an old lady. I mean, look at her, she's... old! You can't just take her stuff. She's... she's too old!" - Happy Gilmore

 

[Formaldehyde]

There are lots of 55+ communities here in Florida. My current subdivision used to be one until they changed the zoning laws to increase the property values. Since there are less people who can live there, it drastically decreases the market value unless you have a surfeit of eldery.

I don't see anything wrong with it.

 

[squall78]

well they do require more resources and would benefit from a community like setting. plus they have been around a lot longer then us youngins so they get to do whatever they want

 

[History_Buff]

Although the Fair Housing Act was amended in 1988 to prohibit discrimination on the basis of disability and familial status...

Just a note for Aimee: this is American law, not Canadian. Though I can't be sure some similar statute doesn't exist in Canada (really you'd need to find a Supreme Court case about it, but that's not exactly easy).

 

[Heretic_Cata]

You know what's something that never confuses me ? Descriptive thread titles.

 

[Silurian]

Yes, but why should that be allowed? What makes senior citizens so special?

They are old and want to spend the remaining years of their life somewhere quite with additional facilities that will make their accommodation more comfortable.

 

[Luckymoose]

Yes, but why should that be allowed? What makes senior citizens so special?

What makes you so special? Have you worked the last 50 years of your life and want a peaceful retirement?