Soon, they shall throw out your infants to die on the street.....

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You know as well as I do in which direction the system moves.

Towards a revolution and massive shift to the economic left? Because that's how the Soviet state arose, not by a gradual change.

You also ignore the fact that most Western societies are shifting away from social authoritarianism, a quality that the USSR relied upon to survive.
 
So the guy is lying about his experiences of Soviet healthcare?

EDIT: It doesn't happen overnight. It never happens overnight. It's slow, and gradual, horrifying, and banal, like all evil.

Evil? What a load of old bollocks :lol:

Take a look at yourself man. Read your own posts. EDIT: And get rid of any nonsense before you hit "post reply"
 
How is this different from what happens in America with private insurance agencies? People are denied coverage based on 'pre-existing conditions' even if those conditions are increadibly minor. As for the 'two tier' system, that is still here in America. Some people are unable to afford basic health services while others who are exceptionaly elderly are given extravagent drugs and surgeries in an attempt to extend their life another month.
I realize the movie has some biases, but have you seen Michael Moores movie Sicko? It is sort of an 'equal opportunity destroyer', both republicans and democrats are criticized.

If we rely on Humes Fork, just because something happened one way in the past does not mean it will happen the same way in the future. Besides, the new health care system isn't even following the soviet model. Its sort of a hybridized monstrosity that satisfies no one but is better than what we had.

EDIT: I have to wonder, do most people in the US even know the differences between socializing, Communism, and the USSR style communism? The way they use the words I have to think not.
 
Would you please tell us more about your experiences of state-controlled schooling and how you love it?

Sure. I went to an excellent state-run public school (whose achievement surpassed most private run academies in my state) , and graduated from an excellent, affordable state-run University that rivals many of my nation's overly expensive colleges. It is a world leader in research. I love them both.

I taught in a terrible school, sure, but only somebody with vast ignorance of my country, and educational issues, would be so flippant as to assign those problems to the fact that it was Public.
 
well thats the Free market for you, it is infallible in its wisdom, morality and compassion
 
So the guy is lying about his experiences of Soviet healthcare?

EDIT: It doesn't happen overnight. It never happens overnight. It's slow, and gradual, horrifying, and banal, like all evil.

And yet in nations with socialized medicine, it gets better instead of worse.....
 
Libertarians are not anarchists. Please learn the difference.

Liberal's aren't communists. Please learn the difference.

Sorry for the double post

OK. In which direction has the system been moving for the last 80 years?

It's been moving left, if moving at all.

How the hell does left=auto-communism?
 
RRW all we can do is wait, for the defibulater to bring this forum back to life, i am doing my best to reverse and repair the damage...

Which makes it quite clear that you have no clue what the word libertarian means.

soviet healthcare = all socialised healthcare
 
Sorry for the double post



It's been moving left, if moving at all.

How the hell does left=auto-communism?

It doesn't.

In 20 more years, where do you see the system?

a) To the left of where it is currently.
b) To the right of where it is currently.
c) Where it is currently.




Left does not mean auto-communism. In its mature form, it approaches Brezhnevian socialism, with all its attendant inefficiencies. The communists got there with one big revolution. You'll get there with a hundred little ones.
 
It doesn't.

If it doesn't, then why are you claiming that socialized health care in the U.S. will somehow equal Soviet health care?

Once again, you seem to equate everything with it's extremes.
 
its similar to the emails of "OBAMERS A MUSLIM/COMMUNIST/NON-US CITIZEN etc"
 
It doesn't.

In 20 more years, where do you see the system?

a) To the left of where it is currently.
b) To the right of where it is currently.
c) Where it is currently.




Left does not mean auto-communism. In its mature form, it approaches Brezhnevian socialism, with all its attendant inefficiencies. The communists got there with one big revolution. You'll get there with a hundred little ones.

The problem being that Bolshevism wasn't to the left of most current Western societies... too authoritarian.

Spoiler :
The really problem is that politics is not a line that you slide up and down. You know that.
 
I don't see any infants being thrown out to die by the nhs, soyour obviously lying and scaremongering
 
Yeah, I agree. The OP is patently ridiculous.

What are you people complaining about? The thread title is so hammy and over the top that it basically shouts for a dramatic musical clue. DUNN DUNN DUUN It's awesome! And the article compares the changing US healthcare system to slavery in the cotton fields. This is serious high-brow discussion.

I think it's safe to say that Mr. Maltzev has some baggage from the Soviet era. No doubt it sucked, and distancing oneself as much as possible from bad experiences is a perfectly
normal human reaction.

That still doesn't mean that mises.org has any contact with reality.
 
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