Speculation: New patch and/or DLC on the 21st of november

[Rewjeo]

The Ottomans spread as far as Vienna before being stopped. That's around what the Byzantine Empire spent most of its time at, with the notable exception of Justinian pushing it as far as Spain.

 

[MantaRevan]

The Ottomans spread as far as Vienna before being stopped. That's around what the Byzantine Empire spent most of its time at, with the notable exception of Justinian pushing it as far as Spain.

I understand, but I don't think that they are culturally European, which is what we were referring to, as well as we're their settler would start.

 

[nokmirt]

I understand, but I don't think that they are culturally European, which is what we were referring to, as well as we're their settler would start.

The Ottomans are not culturally or anything European.

This is the beginning.

"Ertuğrul, Osman's father, led the Turkic Kayi tribe west into Anatolia, fleeing the Mongol onslaught. His mother was named Khaima. He pledged allegiance to Sultan Kayqubad I of the Seljuk principality of Rum, who gave him permission to establish an emirate and expand it if he could, at the expense of the neighboring Byzantine provinces." The name of the first Ottoman city was Söğüt. Osman I becomes the first Bey in 1281. He is one of the great early military commanders in history.

For further reading get this book, which was full of info and a good read. Well written and consise, for a work of history, the book was never boring.

The Ottoman centuries : the rise and fall of the Turkish empire by Lord Kinross. He is a baron.

 

[Louis XXIV]

While I'm not sure I think of them as European either, culture does change. Origins are not all that determine culture, otherwise we'd all be Ethiopian.

 

[nokmirt]

While I'm not sure I think of them as European either, culture does change. Origins are not all that determine culture, otherwise we'd all be Ethiopian.

Turkey is still predominantly muslim, but there are traces of different cultures. The Ottomans were open minded people. They let the populace practice there own religions. Converted Christians ran the empire. So no prince was able to gain favor and total power. The sultans were very independent minded. They killed any family threat to their throne when they took power. Many European influences and races flourished in the empire. Jewish Traders, Genoese bankers, all had a part to play for the sultan. In this way the Ottomans were very bright people.

 

[Bechhold]

Just give us the Austria Empire firaxis

With the Dutch that would complete the Imperial powers.

 

[Rob (R8XFT)]

At least 2kgames confirmed that they were still working on Civ V on twitter yesterday. I'm surprised Anandus hasn't mentioned this as it was he who asked the question .

http://twitter.com/#!/2KGames

 

[anandus]

At least 2kgames confirmed that they were still working on Civ V on twitter yesterday. I'm surprised Anandus hasn't mentioned this as it was he who asked the question .

http://twitter.com/#!/2KGames

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Yesterday I asked 2KGames:

@2KGames Just a small question: Are you still working on Civ5 (either patch or DLC) or is it considered 'dead'?

To which they replied:

@anandus we are still working on it!

Unfortunately that's all the info they're giving us

 

[Dragonflow]

While I'm not sure I think of them as European either, culture does change. Origins are not all that determine culture, otherwise we'd all be Ethiopian.

The Ottomans aren't a European civilization. I don't want to sound racist but the Ottomans or Turks for that matter weren't neither white, Christians nor saw the Romans/Greeks as their cultural ancestors, those are the things most European civilizations have in common. Adding to that the fact that they migrated from Asia and most Turks live in the Asian part of the former Empire it's quite obvious that their not European. It's as asking whether the Moorish states in Spain were European or not, which they weren't. For those same reasons France cannot be seen as an African civ, despite ruling over most of Africa.

On topic: Let's hope 2k are preparing a really big secret Expansion pack for CiV.

 

[Mesix]

With all the doner kebap stands in Germany (or any other European country) you'd be hard pressed to convince me that there is not Turkish influence on European culture.

From a more historical point of view, the Ottomans are considered one of the Great European powers of WWI era in most history books I have read. Regardless of the geographic or ethnic source of Ottoman empire, one cannot deny its influence in Europe...especially in the Balkan region.

 

[Dragonflow]

With all the doner kebap stands in Germany (or any other European country) you'd be hard pressed to convince me that there is not Turkish influence on European culture.

From a more historical point of view, the Ottomans are considered one of the Great European powers of WWI era in most history books I have read. Regardless of the geographic or ethnic source of Ottoman empire, one cannot deny its influence in Europe...especially in the Balkan region.

Yes, nobody can deny their influence on Europe but that doesn't make them European. As said before there is HUGE French influence in Africa, but that doesn't make them African. As for the history books, I can't say much as WWI isn't my strong point but they weren't considered a Great Power by WWI in our history books.According to our history books the European Powers were Germany, Austria-Hungary, UK, France, Russia and Italy.

 

[nokmirt]

Yes, nobody can deny their influence on Europe but that doesn't make them European. As said before there is HUGE French influence in Africa, but that doesn't make them European. As for the history books, I can't say much as WWI isn't my strong point but they weren't considered a Great Power by WWI in our history books.According to our history books the European Powers were Germany, Austria-Hungary, UK, France, Russia and Italy.

Edit: The doner kebap wasn't an Ottoman invention, it was created by Turks who went to work in western Europe after WWII.

Exactly, just because your culture spreads to another region of the world, does not mean you magically turn into the people that live there. You remain who you are. I make good pizza, sure do, but if it was good enough to become popular in China, do I turn from an old Irish-Italian into a Chinese?

 

[gingerbill]

Firaxis and 2K has programmers as well. Get your head out of the sand man. I don't care about corporate incentive. Corporate incentive be damned. Myself and many others have spent a lot on this dead game. I have been loyal to civilization games for twenty years. However, I want a game that is playable, which is being evolved to become even better. I am not interested in putting money in peoples pockets who are solely interested in corporate incentive. 2K and Firaxis need to get to work and fix this damn game. I am sick of saying it, me and tons of others who play the game would like an AI who does not act like a chicken with its head cut off. BTW who in the world ever sticks up for corporations? I can't believe you are! It is absolutely amazing. Here they are ripping us off and you stick up for them. Its insane.

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how are they ripping you off? how much money have you spent on CIV games? , how much time have you spent playing them? I'm wagering its been excellent value for money .

I expect a certain amount of fun playtime for my £30 , i got that many times over with every CIV game. I dont expect the world for £30. I see many many players with 200+ hours of playing moaning about this game.

I hope theres a patch coming , really enjoyed the last 2 big patches , changed the game for me vastly.

With all the doner kebap stands in Germany (or any other European country) you'd be hard pressed to convince me that there is not Turkish influence on European culture.

From a more historical point of view, the Ottomans are considered one of the Great European powers of WWI era in most history books I have read. Regardless of the geographic or ethnic source of Ottoman empire, one cannot deny its influence in Europe...especially in the Balkan region.

yet the one thing you could think of was kebabs

 

[black213]

yet the one thing you could think of was kebabs

Well kebab is so delicious after all...

 

[Pouakai]

Anyway, t-10 days until the supposed release and no news as of yet.

 

[Stormfalcon1970]

Carthage, Mali, Zulu....any or all of those would be nice.

Toltecs or the Maya for the Americas.

 

[Civciv5]

Carthage, Mali, Zulu....any or all of those would be nice.

Toltecs or the Maya for the Americas.

Mali?????

There is already "Songhai" wich is very similar to it.
You can propose it as a "DLC civ".
But if calculations are right they will never be released.

 

[Stormfalcon1970]

Mali?????

There is already "Songhai" wich is very similar to it.
You can propose it as a "DLC civ".
But if calculations are right they will never be released.

Uh....ok? Zulu and/or Carthage then.

 

[Civciv5]

Uh....ok? Zulu and/or Carthage then.

Zulu,is likely to be released...but is unworthy by my opinion.
I would rather have the Kingdom of Kongo or Zimbabwe released as DLC,wich are civs that have a historical significance.
But still,they have a very large chance of being included as DLC.

 

[Piruparka]

Just to let you guys know, I had sent an email to 2k asking for whether there is going to be another update or dlc. This is what they replied.

Spoiler :

Hi Timo,



There most definitely will be more updates for Civilization V. The team is hard at work on our next big patch. Unfortunately, I don’t have any details about that patch for you right now, but if you keep following our Twitter or checking our forums, you’ll find out as soon as we have something to say J



As for an expansion or more DLC, we haven’t announced anything at this time!



2K Greg