Spl01 - Noobish Players Try the Concurrent Format

Splime · Mar 23, 2006

With autocon's exploration, I don't know when the hell we'll find the end of this peninsula... Also, in autocons save, it's only 11 turns for AH, which won't be useful anyway unless we finish the settler and get the worker out. Still, we don't need the cow yet, but that'll be a priority. That's my opinion though. With a seemingly empty continent, early expansion doesn't seem too necessary. With whatever save we pick, I've calculated that it takes 14 - 15 turns (pholkhero, your save, if we start a settler now, it says 21, but the growth should make that end up being 15, so we can start now, as that's how long it'll take if we wait.) The only different save is rex's -- his settler comes in 5 turns. However, he lacks the exploration we've all gotten. So with this discussion, it's time for... drumroll please...

Official Voting Booth (TM):
Copy, Paste, and put your vote unsecretly in no cofidentiality whatsoever next to your name. You don't want to hide this info from the government, do you? Then, put the number of turns you think should be played next.

Splime - Autocon, 30 turns
Pholkhero -
Rex_Tyranus -
Autocon -

Splime · Mar 23, 2006

Great chart autocon. However, one little bug that is important -- in the column with pholkhero, you have settler in 21 down. Sure, this is what the game tells you, but I recently calculated that with growth, it'll be 15 turns. Maybe 16. Great chart though, shows the techs side-by-side which really helps.

Rex Tyrannus · Mar 23, 2006

Splime - Autocon, 30 turns
Pholkhero -
Rex_Tyranus - Autocon
Autocon -

pholkhero · Mar 23, 2006

Splime - Autocon, 30 turns
Pholkhero - Rex, 25 or 30t is fine with me
Rex_Tyranus - Autocon
Autocon -

The worker and the settler are just too much to ignore at this point, for me at least. I think that, being all alone is EXACTLY the reason to try for early expansion and growth simply to make up for our isolation and lack of trade oppurtunities, at least until Astronomy comes in ~ we're going to need all the commerce we can get.

I think, go with Rex, bld in the SE there, by that other river, cottage these up sooner rather than later, get another worker out, put another one on those plains to take adv of that silver, cow and deer (if we can make it, that is) and we'll be rolling in dough (or beakers, but rolling in broken glass can get dicey)! anyway's -- my 4 cents.

Rex Tyrannus · Mar 23, 2006

being all alone is EXACTLY the reason to try for early expansion

couldn't agree more. Taking our time expanding because we're isolated will only result in a stagering fall in tech. Build near the deltas, cottage every flood plain. (Yes, I farmed one already, but that was lack of worker options. We probably will need to farm at least a couple, right?)

pholkhero · Mar 23, 2006

rex_tyranus said:
Yes, I farmed one already, but that was lack of worker options. We probably will need to farm at least a couple, right?

The farming for now is great simply b/c we don't need to research an husb as fast (and even fishing to grow@a good rate). In the end, though, I don't think that we would need any at Thebes since we have all taht food. at the 2nd delta, we'll need two, and in the plains, we're gonna need like 11 farms to use all avail tiles ~ perhaps this is the prod city?

Rex Tyrannus · Mar 23, 2006

We still want animal husbandry soon. THat cow I've got hooked up is 3f3p. The clams are 4f2c when boated. Our three resource tiles will give us 11f3p4c. Plus whateve Thebes gives us. We'll have a rockin' city at just size three, with 5f per turn to growth. The next 7 population can all go to cottaged flood plains at 3f1+C each.

Production will be down, though. Somewhere, we'll need to put a mine on the hills and well have, what, 8 base P? We definitely need a production city.

pholkhero · Mar 23, 2006

rex_tyranus said:
We still want animal husbandry soon.

Talking about auto's save, yes?

using rex's save: yes, we will need it soon, but, IMO, we should grab pottery first, and maybe BW. the food surplus will be enough, for the time being, to put out some workers quickly, and then we can also use the whip soon after we get AH...
so, pottery>mining>BW>AH

autocon · Mar 23, 2006

Splime - Autocon, 30 turns
Pholkhero - Rex, 25 or 30t is fine with me
Rex_Tyranus - Autocon
Autocon - rex, 20 turns

i'm afraid we will fall in a trap i have felt many times if we use my scenario, finding ourselves confined to a small island, so i say we go we rex's save and cottage spam our cities so that we have money to found new cities aboard (will have to detail this strategy a bit more if we follow it)

so we have a tie

whose call now?

Rex Tyrannus · Mar 23, 2006

My save has AH (It's how I hooked up the cows). If we use auto's, I think we should go AH early, though pottery probably first.

Edit: My save is taking a path to archery, though seeing everyone else's exploration, I'd change it immediately to pottery then sailing.

Unless we want to track back and go for a religion...?

Edit 2: http://shazam.econ.ubc.ca/flip/ Coin flip?

Splime · Mar 23, 2006

You bring up a good point with early expansion. However, I'm still liking autocon's save. I mean, two fishing boats is a pretty hefty food surplus, and a worker can get pumped out afterwards pretty quickly. If we have AH by then, we can get some milking done.

However, pholkhero has yet to stumple upon the hut that gave a tech (actually, only autocon did). In fact, pholkhero is two tiles away (from the last look I had of it). This presents a issue, because it's likely for techs to pop up in the other saves. The tech lead and fishing boats were really the only reason I picked autocon's save.

Then there's rex. He has the cows hooked up, and decent technology. However, he lacks the exploration. Then again, we have a decent idea of the map already. I need to do more analysis before my vote is final.

Splime - Autocon (Unsure, not final), 30 turns
Pholkhero - Rex, 25 or 30t is fine with me
Rex_Tyranus - Autocon
Autocon - rex, 20 turns

Splime · Mar 23, 2006

Scratch the flip. I've changed to rex. Rex has a better chance of something good from the last goody hut.

Rex's save is the winner. OK, if we have strategy set, we can do a turn voting.

Splime - 30t
Pholkhero - 25 ot 30t
Rex -
Autocon - 20t

Rex Tyrannus · Mar 23, 2006

Splime - 30t
Pholkhero - 25 ot 30t
Rex - 30t
Autocon - 20t

The more the better, because we don't have enough significant variation in our saves.

Splime · Mar 23, 2006

if everyone has 2 votes, and pholkhero split his, then 30t has 5 votes, which is enough to win.

NOON (EST; 5 PM GMT) Saturday is when the spoiler zone ends. All write-ups and saves must be posted by NOON Sunday to count. Remember, Rex's save is the save to play.

Spoiler :

EDIT: I got the save, starting now.

Splime · Mar 23, 2006

OK, all done.

Spoiler :

Continued Next Post...

Splime · Mar 23, 2006

Spoiler :

Continued Next Post...

Splime · Mar 23, 2006

Spoiler :

Summary:

Spoiler :

Rex Tyrannus · Mar 23, 2006

My turns:

Spoiler :

Rex Tyrannus · Mar 23, 2006

Pantload's Borders Expant.

Does this mean we have to change the city name to just "Load"?

Rex Tyrannus · Mar 23, 2006

Also, hero's my save

Spl01 - Noobish Players Try the Concurrent Format

Regular Lurker

Regular Lurker

280lbs of gross stupidity

Deviant Mind

280lbs of gross stupidity

Deviant Mind

280lbs of gross stupidity

Deviant Mind

Deus da Guerra

280lbs of gross stupidity

Regular Lurker

Regular Lurker

280lbs of gross stupidity

Regular Lurker

Regular Lurker

Regular Lurker

Regular Lurker

280lbs of gross stupidity

280lbs of gross stupidity

280lbs of gross stupidity

Similar threads